Shining Force III: Mismatched Mugshots
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Mismatched Mugshots
Has anybody else noticed that the mug shots in this game seem inconsistent? Not with their matching sprites, but with one another. I mainly noticed it with Tybalt's during the opening dialogue in Sc1, but later noticed it a bit more subtly with some other characters as well; especially while digging through the HQ bookshelf in Sc2. I feel like they don't all have consistent art styles, like some of them were originally designed for a completely different game, then shoved into SF3 as an afterthought when they weren't used for their original project.
Has anybody else noticed that? Or am I just crazy?
Has anybody else noticed that? Or am I just crazy?
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
That has always bothered me too and doesn't help my annoyance with the game as a whole. I'm pretty sure Scn 3 was rushed so there are some issues from that but I'm not sure on the earlier scenarios.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
And the fact that I've been a user of RPG Maker for most my life doesn't help. Especially since one of the earliest lessons I remember reading online regarding making a good game is to make sure all your resources are consistent with each other, rather than just grabbing random tunes, sprites, etcetera from all sorts of games that look and sound nothing alike.
I haven't played Scenario 3 yet, but I have heard of it being a bit rushed because of the Dreamcast.
I haven't played Scenario 3 yet, but I have heard of it being a bit rushed because of the Dreamcast.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
By mugshots you mean the characters' portraits, correct?
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Yes.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
True! There are some mugshots in scenario 3 of the last promotion of some characters which are quite distinguishable. The ones i remember now are of Dantares, Murasame, Irene, Campbell, Produn and Edmund. On second thought, i think there a lot of others like Synbios and Medion also but the ones i mentioned are the most distinguishable. It's clear that they were drawn by another artist. The problem is not the artist being another, it's because he/she has a very different way of drawing manga characters.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
I also always wondered why they look so different but never investigated it that much to find out that they were drawn by different artists. Some of them look actually really annoying.
Nevertheless, this are mostly minor flaws and playing all 3 games is still a great experience.
Yeah, at some points it is noticeable, like the appearance of enemies known out of previous parts of the series and the sprite-less Rogan that slumbers in the games code instead of joining in all his nautical glory.MXC wrote:That has always bothered me too and doesn't help my annoyance with the game as a whole. I'm pretty sure Scn 3 was rushed so there are some issues from that but I'm not sure on the earlier scenarios.
Nevertheless, this are mostly minor flaws and playing all 3 games is still a great experience.
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I don't know if those portraits were drawn by different artists but that seems to be the case. The name of the artists might be in the credits. Someday i'll check it.MCRT wrote:I also always wondered why they look so different but never investigated it that much to find out that they were drawn by different artists.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
Instead of starting a new topic, I'll just add to this one.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
I believe they are the portraits of some of the SF3 develop team.DomingoRules! wrote:Instead of starting a new topic, I'll just add to this one.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
I have since seen some of those promoted Sc3 mug shots of which have been spoken of here, and my god. They are horrific. Except Fynnding's. I literally burst out laughing when I saw his Wing Lord portrait.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
Yeah, horrific is quite a matching term. I also find the colour choices for some of the promoted characters really horrible, especially Murasame and CyclopsDomingoRules! wrote:I have since seen some of those promoted Sc3 mug shots of which have been spoken of here, and my god. They are horrific. Except Fynnding's. I literally burst out laughing when I saw his Wing Lord portrait.
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Things like colors being the problem. With a lot of them, it's not even so much that they're bad. They just look like they belong in a completely different game.
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
Yeahh, to me it feels like the art designers responsible for those mugshots had been replaced by new ones for Scenario 3 and didn't take into consideration for the original mugshots for SF3 Scenario 1 and 2 respectively. To me it definitely feels like SF3 was under a tight budget when being made. I really wish a remake of this game comes soon to fix some of SF3's flaws if Sega stops riding on that high horse and make amends to Camelot. Only in my dreams Zetha, only in my dreams
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Re: Mismatched Mugshots
Of course, it's not just Scenario 3. I noticed it right from the very first segment of Scenario 1 when Tybalt first speaks, and his face looks like a cartoony, 2D sprite compared to everybody else who look more artistically drawn, and don't appear flat as a paper cutout. Then there are other characters (the one example that comes to mind being Hazuki) who just look out of place in similar, albeit sometimes more subtle ways.
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