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I wouldn't mind... but the cutscene is so long!

Few errors with the bookcase:

Firstly, there are no entries, they all look like this:

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Secondly, certain people have Pappetts written next to the F: (which I thought stood for Force). These are Edmund, Stella and Produn:

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Coming on to Basanda, she doesn't have anywhere written under O: (Origin?)

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And then, Ilia, from Swampland doesn't have a C: (Class?)

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And whilst it's present in these images, some of the text just kinda goes missing, Honesty didn't have a R: (Race?) listed, but I couldn't tell whether this was disappearing text or a faulty entry
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Yeah bookcase is screwed in Scenario 3. It's nice and pretty in Scenario 2 though. :)
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The Sc3 bookcase isn't finished and is not open for scrutiny... which could probably be said for all of Sc3... Although I do appreciate the identification of the lines you point out.

The previous mixed up line issues I do want to know about however. These are not really problems with the files and lines, but problems with compression. I'll recompress the Destonia files and post them when I get a chance to see if this clears it up, so keep that save handy.
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righto, I'm just on the battle after that, so I'll return and create a new save

I'll go through and make a list of which shop function brings up what if that's any help?
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The shopkeeper problem still exists in Foothill, so perhaps it's not localised only in Destonia.
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Right, here's a breakdown of each line of text with each option at the Weapon shop and Item Shop
(Note - I didn't manage to get the lines where the shopkeepers offer deals, I've already gone past that part without realising)

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Item Shop

Greeting - You don't seem to have enough gold for that item. Something else, perhaps?
Farewell - Thank you very much for your patronage

Purchase options:
Buy - Would you like to buy something else?
Sell - I'd love to buy that, but you really need to unequip it first.
Repair - This ??? doesn't look broken to me. Do you have something else?
Deals - How does it feel? Well, you'll get used to it. Give it a day or two.
Cancelling Menus - Please stop by if you ever need anything.

Sub-menus

Buy:
After choosing an item, before selecting force member to hold it - Synbios already has too much to carry. Who else wants it?
When giving item to a force member with free space - Will Synbios Equip this now? (then quickly skips to the item list)
When giving item to a force member with no free space - Julian can't equip this item. Is that alright?
Cancelling a purchase after selecting an item - Do you have something else to sell? Well, let me take a look.
Giving an Accessory to a character to equip - Will Synbios Equip this now? (Then quickly skips to) How does it feel? Well, give it a couple of days to break in. (Begin equip yes/no item choice)
If Equip accessory = Yes - If you like it, please take time to look around some more
If Equip accessory = No - Do you have something else to sell? Well, let me take a look.
If accessory already equipped - Offers X amount of gold (Yes/No)
If Yes to selling equipment - I don't think you'll find a better price. Think it over and get back to me.
If No to selling equipment - That's my final offer. If that's not enough, I guess we're done.
Attempt to purchase with not enough gold - To whom should I give this?

Sell:
Choose an item to sell - I'll take the item nown (Yes/No)
If Yes - I don't think you'll find a better price. Think it over and get back to me.
After selling an item - Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.
In No - This is quite rare! I'll give you 0 gold for it (quickly skips to) Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.
Selling a 'Deal' item - In that case, let's make the trade right now (Yes/No)
If Yes - How regrettable... that's as high as I can go. Maybe next time (Skips to 'Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.')
If No - Do you have something else to sell?(Skips to 'Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.')


Repair:
Repairing a Broken item - Your welcome to shop around for a better price. I'll be here waiting. (Yes/No)
If Yes - There, all done, it's as good as new. Anything else to fix? (THEN repairs item)
Following repairs - Unreadable, previous text covers this line
If No - Sorry, but you need to pay up front for repairs. Something else to repair?
Reapiring a Non-Broken Item - I can't fix it unless you leave it here. Is there anything else?

Deals:
As Buying

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Weapon Shop

Greeting - Oh I'm sorry, you don't seem to have enough gold. Something else?
Farewell - One can never have too many weapons

Purchase options:
Buy - Would you like anything else?
Sell - The ??? is equipped. I can't buy it until you remove it
Repair - This ??? looks fine to me. Did you have something else? 
Deals - Well, that item looks a bit rich for you blood. Something else perhaps?
Cancelling a Menu - Please feel free to stop by anytime

Sub-menus

Buy:
After choosing an item, before selecting force member to hold it - Well, Synbios already has too much to carry. Someone else?
Giving to a force member that cannot equip the weapon - If you are sure, I'll hand it over (Yes/No)
If Yes - Does Synbios want to equip this straight away? (lines underneath unreadable)
If No - Well, Synbios already has too much to carry. Someone else?
Giving to a force member that can equip the item - Does Synbios want to equip this straight away? (Skips to 'Ah, you look more fearsome than ever')
After equipping the force member with the weapon - Sentimental attachment, eh? That's OK, I won't force you. (Yes/No)
If yes - If you don't like my price, you can take it somewhere else.
After replacing an equipped item and selling the previously equipped - Unloading a weapon eh? Alright let's have a look at it.
If No - Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.
When giving item to a force member with no free space - Well, Julian can't equip this. Is that alright?
Cancelling a purchase after selecting an item - Unloading a weapon eh? Alright, let's have a look at it
Attempt to purchase with not enough gold - To whom should I give this?

Sell:
Choose an item to sell - Alright! I'll buy it. Here you go. Don't spend it all in one place. (Yes/No)
If Yes - If you don't like my price, you can take it somewhere else.
After Selling the item - Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.
If No - WOW! This is... ahem... uh, well, it's not bad, I'll give you 0 gold for it (Skips automatically to 'Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.')
Selling a 'Deal' item - Alright, I'll take it. Here's the gold (Yes/No)
If Yes - But that's a fair price... Ah fine, take it somewhere else (Skips to 'Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.')
If No - Is there anything else you want to get rid of? (Skips to 'Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.')

Repair:
Repairing a Broken item - Oh, you changed your mind? Oh well, it's your choice. Something else to repair? (Yes/No)
If Yes - It's all repaired etc (THEN repairs item)
Following repairs - Unreadable, previous text covers this line
If No - I'd love to help, but you don't have enough gold. Anything else to repair?
Reapiring a Non-Broken Item - The (item name) is equipped. I can't repair it like that. Something else to repair?

Deals:
As Buying
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Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

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I don't need the exact line break down. The lines are correct in the files... they just jack up when compressed.

I only need the locations such as the city.
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OK, I'm really bloody fed up with this bug now. When we release a new version I am going to test every single sodding area for this bug (time consuming and annoying as it is). You got a list of which files are for which areas LF so I can get a bunch of saves and test cases ready?
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I've got a current save in the Destonian caverns if that's any help for you Bone?
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I don't think that will be necessary BoneIdol but I certainly appreciate the offer. I'm certain re-compressing will fix it.

Try the DST files on the FTP.

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The shopkeeper lines mix-up is in Guarder as well.

(I just remembered how hilarious it was at first that the shopkeeper kept mentioning Synbios' name, and yet greeting you with the Empire-fitting not-enough-gold line! :thumbsup:)
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Try the two GL and GUILD files for Guarder.
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Finally, looks like Baersol's shopkeepers are fine. :D
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Thief wrote:Finally, looks like Baersol's shopkeepers are fine. :D
Confirming this point...

Also, when Cyclops tames a dragon, the text goes beyond the screen
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Aspia's shopkeepers are fine as well. But Aural experiences the same problem as the Imperial shops.
(Do I sense love for the Republic? Haha)

Also, during the intermission scene between the first two fights of Chapter 4, a story line by Benetram experiences the same fast-forward error as those guys in Anafect back in Scenario 2.
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So I thought I would wait a while and bag a load of images from Sc3 of errors with the translation patch

Firstly, and I didn't screenshot it, but Galm uses a move called 'Chaos', but it's listed everywhere as 'Chaos Cauldron' Not sure if this is a deliberate thing or not...

Anyway, here are the images and a description of where and what

Bridge Scene at Aspia: Chapter 3 - Text Outside Screen
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JuMSy
((IIRC this is something that can't be changed?))
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Gracia performing promotion - All Locations
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Crushed text: Choose File screen
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Galm Speech - Only during this greyed out section
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Dantares defeat speech: During Battle w/ Synbios force
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((I am not sure if this is present with other characters, but the following were in that battle and fine: Masqurin, Grace, Obright, Murasame, Hagane, Hayward, Ratchet, Cybel, Noon, Irene, Eldar))

Depositing an item with Benetram - Flagship (Before Rainblood King battle)
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((Note: This text appears after the item is deposited))

Remotest HQ Errors - Synbios as leader
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((Note: Pappetts IS sly... Produn is gonna be PISSED when he finds out it isn't his...))

Remotest HQ Errors - Medion as leader
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Remotest Chapel - Keeper promoting multiple characters
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That's all I have found SO far, I'm now going through the Heroes test and things appear to be fine
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Zip these, create a log with each location (chapter, town, battle number, section, etc) and email them to me.
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Will do, I'll sort it for you later tonight mate
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Rick wrote:Image
((Note: Pappetts IS sly... Produn is gonna be PISSED when he finds out it isn't his...))
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There's already a scenario 3 error report topic :(
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