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This game has aged so well!

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This game has aged so well!

Postby drunkensailor » Wed Dec 06 2017 11:18am

my disc rotted away several years ago and it has always been a thorn in my eye since I loved this game so much. recently bought a disc+manual only copy and have invested 8 hours into it already (hadn't plated it in more than 10 years). my god has this game aged well! the graphics as well. also I can't stand most turn based battle anymore but this game is so much quicker and pixie system is tremendous and I can never get over the dungeon design. this game has the best level/dungeon design out of any rpg ever made.

it's not just one of saturns best rpg's ever made it's one of the best rpg's ever made period and is still tremendous to play today.

also I love how it connects to the shining force 3 games in storyline as well as graphics and interface.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby DomingoRules! » Thu Dec 07 2017 12:17am

As somebody who played this game for the very first time ever about three years ago (geez, it does not feel like it's been that long, but thread post dates insist it has), I can attest to the game aging well without needing to worry about my opinion being clouded with nostalgia. From the first time I powered it on, I couldn't put it down during my free time, and found myself anxious to get home and continue every day at work. And that's coming from somebody who generally doesn't care for first-person dungeon crawlers.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby Moondog » Fri Dec 08 2017 12:50pm

i first played STHA when it came out (about 20 years ago now lol), loved it back then. i then bought my own Saturn around 2006, haven't played it in a few years since my Saturn has been packed away for while, or been breaking down due to age.

i've just recently taken a gamble on ebay for a £25 Saturn that was sold as 'faulty' due to the seller not having a cable to connect it to the TV, so was unable to test it, but they had powered it on and the light came on.

i tried it out and it seems to work fine, so i've now bought a SCART to HDMI converter, so should hopefully be playing my Saturn in HD very soon :excited:

any time i've went back to STHA i've always loved how well it holds up too, the graphics and framerate on the worms that come out the ground are still top notch, and i can't get enough of the awesome battle theme.

i've never finished the game (last save was just after beating Rilix so not sure how far that is but pretty far), but i should still have my save on my cart to carry on where i left off and hopefully finish it after 20 long years lol.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby knight0fdragon » Tue Jan 09 2018 2:56am

I have to disagree, the very low frame rate is a major drawback to this game, thus not allowing it to age well.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby DomingoRules! » Tue Jan 09 2018 4:28am

I myself have never really been bothered by changes in frame rate. I didn't even mind it in Mighty No. 9, which is one reason why I actually enjoyed that game. As for frame rates in Shining the Holy Ark, I feel that drops are even more moot in a game like an RPG where the frame rate drops don't actually affect the player's ability to properly play the game (outside testing their patience).
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby knight0fdragon » Tue Jan 09 2018 11:54pm

Not the change in frame rate, the actual game runs in its entirety in a low frame rate (not as low as virtual hydlide, but still sluggish)
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby DomingoRules! » Wed Jan 10 2018 1:12am

That to me just makes it even less noteworthy because of being consistent within itself. I've just never been one to understand why people make such big deals over frame rates.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby knight0fdragon » Wed Jan 10 2018 7:23am

because choppy animations hurt the eyes, imagine a strobe effect
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby legalize freedom » Tue Feb 06 2018 1:50pm

It does lag in spots, but nothing that ever bothered me compared to the rest of the experience.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby Pappets » Thu Feb 08 2018 10:23am

I also remember the lag of this game. One place is in Enrich Town in several spots. But the curious thing is that when i played it in an emulator there was almost no lag. So this game is better played in an emulator.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby DomingoRules! » Tue Feb 13 2018 8:25am

I definitely ran into some lag here and there when playing the game for the first time a few years ago, but because my Saturn isn't in the best shape I wasn't sure if it was the way the game simply acted, or if it was the condition of my console. Especially since the lag was so much of a problem at first, that it actually kept freezing the game until I adjusted the laser a bit so I could clear the first dungeon. Even after the adjustment, the game still lagged at times, but no longer froze as a result.
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Re: This game has aged so well!

Postby Moondog » Tue Mar 20 2018 11:42pm

I find it runs really good on my 4K Panasonic TV with clear motion enabled, possibly smoother than a CRT TV too. ;)
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