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hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby The_Dark_Lord » Sun Jun 29 2008 5:54pm

I was playing shining force final conflict and a certain matter intrigued me.
If Elliot was the last remaining dragonewt in the planet, then who gave birth to Eric? Also, he has wings and Elliot didnt, did Elliot mated with a different species O_o.
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Cullsoft » Sun Jun 29 2008 7:33pm

Simple.

Elliot is not the last Dragonewt on the planet. That was a complete and total fallacy made up in ROTDD.
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby The_Dark_Lord » Mon Jun 30 2008 12:30am

Culley O'Fursdom @ Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:33 pm) wrote: Simple.

Elliot is not the last Dragonewt on the planet. That was a complete and total fallacy made up in ROTDD.

Hmmmm, I think he said that he was the last in the genesis version too, my mind is blurred so i dont remember
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Mon Jun 30 2008 8:35am

No. No he didn't.
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby wcameron2005 » Mon Jun 30 2008 3:41pm

Make a sentence out of the following words: "Canon", "in", "not".
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Martin III » Mon Jun 30 2008 11:12pm

Or maybe Elliot never knew about Eric. Or maybe he refused to acknowledge him; when confronting an enemy on the battlefield, "I am the last remaining Dragonewt on earth..." sounds a lot better than "I am the last Dragonewt on earth, except for the one resulting from my getting very drunk while celebrating my promotion to general..."
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby DanPMK » Sun Jul 06 2008 2:00am

Or perhaps fans always make convoluted attempts at explaining things when people do shoddy port jobs :p
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Martin III » Sun Jul 06 2008 2:44am

Convoluted? It seems pretty straightforward to me...

Besides, explaining it is a lot more fun than whining about it(not that that isn't fun, too).
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Alpha » Sun Jul 06 2008 12:44pm

Martin III @ Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:12 pm) wrote: Or maybe Elliot never knew about Eric. Or maybe he refused to acknowledge him; when confronting an enemy on the battlefield, "I am the last remaining Dragonewt on earth..." sounds a lot better than "I am the last Dragonewt on earth, except for the one resulting from my getting very drunk while celebrating my promotion to general..."

That could work. They could have fallen out. Or Eric could have disgraced himself in Elliot's eyes, and the elder one may have disregarded him. And his resulting death may have changed Eric point of view.

Could go on for a while here >_>
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Postby Aldur » Sun Jul 06 2008 2:21pm

Or perhaps his mother wasn't a Dragonnewt? So then Eric would only be half, and Elliot would still be the last one. :p
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Alpha » Sun Jul 06 2008 6:11pm

Aldur @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:21 pm) wrote: Or perhaps his mother wasn't a Dragonnewt? So then Eric would only be half, and Elliot would still be the last one. :p

True. That being the case, I'd imagine she'd have wings, working towards why Eric could fly and his father couldn't.
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Martin III » Tue Jul 08 2008 3:16am

Yeah, I've thought about that, too. Eric having wings could just be interspecies variety, but his mother being a different species would explain it well. She could have been a dragon, a gargoyle, etc.

Actually, now that I think of it, if Eric's mother was a dragon, that could explain a LOT. It's hinted that Darksol was having the Sacred Dragons quietly killed off. So... Suppose Elliot had a passionate affair with one of the Sacred Dragons. Then the war with Guardiana begins, and Elliot is sent off. Eric is born during his absence, and his mother never sends word to Elliot for fear that Darksol would get ahold of the message and use the two of them as hostages to keep Elliot doing his bidding.

Along with all of the Sacred Dragons save Bleu, Eric's mother is killed off. Some of the kids from Dragonia save Eric and send him away. Word is sent to Elliot that his lover is dead, but without mentioning Eric, because whoever sent word either didn't know about him or feared Darksol would find out about him. Elliot decides that he has nothing left to live for. However, he fears that if he goes against Darksol he will be written as a traitor in the history books, effectively shaming his entire race, since he is the last surviving member. And so he goes to meet his end at the hands of the Shining Force.
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Aldur » Tue Jul 08 2008 2:50pm

Or Elliot has a thing for Wyvern booty instead.
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby The_Dark_Lord » Tue Jul 08 2008 11:13pm

Aldur @ Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:50 pm) wrote: Or Elliot has a thing for Wyvern booty instead.

I cant imagine Elliot with a wyvern, really. :)
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Re: hmmmmm,this is weird indeed.

Postby Lucifer » Sat Jun 27 2015 12:02am

Alpha wrote:That could work. They could have fallen out. Or Eric could have disgraced himself in Elliot's eyes, and the elder one may have disregarded him. And his resulting death may have changed Eric point of view.


If I remember FC correctly, Eric resents his father for remaining loyal to King Ramladu despite knowing that his king was being manipulated by Devils. Eric probably tried to convince his father to betray his king for the greater good, causing a heated argument that would result in Eric's [self?] exile. Elliot most likely wouldn't acknowledge the disgrace of having a traitor for a son, despite understanding and agreeing with Eric's motives.
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