Welcome to the Shining Force Central Forums!
SFC Forums Index Shining Forums Shining Hearts
Register for your free forum account now or Login to remove this advert.

Shining Hearts Trailer

more characters, voices... etc

Discussion about the new Japanese Shining game for PSP.
Forum rules
As this is a new game please be careful of posting spoilers! Don't forget to use the spoiler tags :)

Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby sulfuroxp » Fri Sep 17 2010 8:12pm

sulfuroxp

User avatar
Lost Shining Purple
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 1834
Joined: Sun Feb 15 2009 7:40pm
Location: Chile Chile lindo, lindo como un sol! (8)

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Kaihaku » Fri Sep 17 2010 8:26pm

Interesting, I can't decide if I like the art style or not.
The Once and Future Kai
"The quick brown vox jumps ofer the lazy dog"
The Once and Future Kai
"The quick brown vox jumps ofer the lazy dog"
Kaihaku

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 9944
Joined: Thu Sep 16 2004 5:49pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby sulfuroxp » Sat Sep 18 2010 10:37pm

sulfuroxp

User avatar
Lost Shining Purple
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 1834
Joined: Sun Feb 15 2009 7:40pm
Location: Chile Chile lindo, lindo como un sol! (8)

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Martin III » Mon Sep 20 2010 2:39am

Nice that this one shows some actual gameplay. I rather like the look of how the battles are laid out.
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
Martin III

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 4984
Joined: Mon Jul 17 2006 4:30pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Sinful Force » Mon Sep 20 2010 9:11pm

I seen the first trailer first yesturday for the first time, and I have to say, "Dam, some of those chicks in that game are really busting!" It's like soft porn quality. Is this the future of gaming? Should I even complain? Is there gampley in this game?

Anyways, I have to say that I like the graphics for the town exploration. As it kinda reminds me of good 2D gaming town exploartion. This is also why I love the Nintendo portable systems (GBA & DS) so much, As they preserve the look of 90's gaming/technology for a bit longer (plus they last really long before the next update. I hate systems updates that seem to always come much too soon).
From what I remember about reading Moogie's forum guideline awhile ago, it says that by adding the letters j/k together at the end of a sentence or post, it prevents people from getting upset... So remember South Parkateers, in case of a volcano, stop, drop, tuck and roll. ... Oh wait, er, you know what I mean. ;)
From what I remember about reading Moogie's forum guideline awhile ago, it says that by adding the letters j/k together at the end of a sentence or post, it prevents people from getting upset... So remember South Parkateers, in case of a volcano, stop, drop, tuck and roll. ... Oh wait, er, you know what I mean. ;)
Sinful Force

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 1989
Joined: Wed Oct 21 2009 2:24am
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Kaihaku » Mon Sep 20 2010 9:28pm

Sinful Force @ Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:11 pm) wrote:I seen the first trailer first yesturday for the first time, and I have to say, "Dam, some of those chicks in that game are really busting!" It's like soft porn quality.

Yeah. That was my issue with the art style on reflection, it's a good style but but they took a few too many "liberties." It makes the game look cheap. It's far from the worst example of this kind of fan service but it is noticeable.
Sinful Force @ Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:11 pm) wrote:Is this the future of gaming?

I'm pretty sure that you can argue that this is the "past" of gaming. Right now, developers are starting to aim for broader demographics and I suspect that bloated breasts don't sell well across the board. So I think that we'll be seeing less, not more, of this in the future though I suspect that it will always be a part of gaming.
Sinful Force @ Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:11 pm) wrote:Should I even complain?

Yes. It's kind of insulting in a Shining title, a bit of a sign that Sega didn't think the game would sell well enough on its own so they inflated the girl's breasts.
The Once and Future Kai
"The quick brown vox jumps ofer the lazy dog"
The Once and Future Kai
"The quick brown vox jumps ofer the lazy dog"
Kaihaku

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 9944
Joined: Thu Sep 16 2004 5:49pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby sulfuroxp » Mon Sep 20 2010 9:33pm

is tony taka art style, thats all
sulfuroxp

User avatar
Lost Shining Purple
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 1834
Joined: Sun Feb 15 2009 7:40pm
Location: Chile Chile lindo, lindo como un sol! (8)

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Cullsoft » Mon Sep 20 2010 9:36pm

sulfuroxp @ Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:33 pm) wrote: is tony taka art style, thats all

Exactly. Don't expect too much from someone primarily known for drawing porno.
----- Culley's Shop RPG Trading Post & Figurine Emporium -----
- Warrior Pride, Dynamite & other items for sale
- Various figures for trading
- Seeking Grace, Alef and May figurines, also Power Waters, Lucky Cookies and rare goods
Click here for trading rates & more information
----- Culley's Shop RPG Trading Post & Figurine Emporium -----
- Warrior Pride, Dynamite & other items for sale
- Various figures for trading
- Seeking Grace, Alef and May figurines, also Power Waters, Lucky Cookies and rare goods
Click here for trading rates & more information
Cullsoft

User avatar
Shining Furce
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 5253
Joined: Thu Sep 16 2004 1:56pm
Location: Oxford, UK

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Kaihaku » Mon Sep 20 2010 9:47pm

Culley O'Fursdom @ Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:36 pm) wrote: Exactly. Don't expect too much from someone primarily known for drawing porno.

Ah, Shining is taking a line from Langrisser I see. :p
The Once and Future Kai
"The quick brown vox jumps ofer the lazy dog"
The Once and Future Kai
"The quick brown vox jumps ofer the lazy dog"
Kaihaku

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 9944
Joined: Thu Sep 16 2004 5:49pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Crystalgate » Mon Sep 20 2010 10:57pm

Kaihaku @ Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:28 pm) wrote:Yeah. That was my issue with the art style on reflection, it's a good style but but they took a few too many "liberties." It makes the game look cheap. It's far from the worst example of this kind of fan service but it is noticeable.

What I think also makes the game look cheap is the female bodies looking identical. I can't tell for sure if they truly are identical due to different clothing and angles, but I have not seen any evidence that they are not identical and at least they are very similar. The similarity also includes shape of head.

As far as males goes, the main character and the prince also seem to share body shape. The elf may also do so, but he's shown from the side. The pirate guy definitely has a different build though.
Crystalgate

User avatar
Shining Member
Shining Member
 
Posts: 368
Joined: Thu Sep 16 2004 4:09pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Martin III » Wed Sep 22 2010 1:01am

I don't understand the busty chicks complaint. Both Shining Force III and Shining Tears are easily as risque as this. And really, the series has never been free of in-your-face cleavage. Just get a look at the covers of Shining Wisdom and Shining Force Gaiden.

Mars: :eyebrow: Um... Princess... Any thoughts about putting those shoulder straps on your shoulders?
Satera: Relax. My breasts are easily big enough to hold this dress up.

Crystalgate) wrote:What I think also makes the game look cheap is the female bodies looking identical. I can't tell for sure if they truly are identical due to different clothing and angles, but I have not seen any evidence that they are not identical and at least they are very similar. The similarity also includes shape of head.


This complaint I understand. It's been at the back of my head, but it has been bothering me that they look so much alike, if not identical. It doesn't make much sense to me, either. Tony Taka is doing the designs, isn't he? On Tears and Wind he showed himself more than capable of creating a variety of female figures, despite the limitation of them all being well-endowed. So what's with this lookalikes deal?

**Shrug** On the bright side, limited variety in character designs being my biggest complaint thus far says a lot.

Kaihaku) wrote:I'm pretty sure that you can argue that this is the "past" of gaming. Right now, developers are starting to aim for broader demographics and I suspect that bloated breasts don't sell well across the board.


You sure about that last part? What I've heard from folks in the comic book industry is that the appeal of attractive-looking women is pretty much universal. It's the gender-flipped version of the old saying; "Women want to be her, men want to be with her."
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
Martin III

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 4984
Joined: Mon Jul 17 2006 4:30pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Sinful Force » Wed Sep 22 2010 6:40am

Martin III @ Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:01 pm) wrote:I don't understand the busty chicks complaint. Both Shining Force III and Shining Tears are easily as risque as this. And really, the series has never been free of in-your-face cleavage. Just get a look at the covers of Shining Wisdom and Shining Force Gaiden.

It's just that the drawing look even more realistic. It's like I can feel their soft skin realistic. Sorry if that sounds perverse.


Also, while SF3 had the odd smoking chick here and there, it wans't like the entire party was comprised of mostly nothing but beautifull divas that scream "touch me, feel me" in a nice sexy moaning type of voice (isn't that in a song?).

All I'm saying is that I must of missed on too many modern day games, or only in Japan retro gaming, to be up to speed on this sort of stuff being more so widely accepted in gaming with even more realistic art/graphics/higher resolution. Because this sort of stuff seems pretty new to me as I've been living in a cave in regards to most modern gaming (I'm very slowly planning on trying some "made in the year 2000" games for the major home consoles soon).
From what I remember about reading Moogie's forum guideline awhile ago, it says that by adding the letters j/k together at the end of a sentence or post, it prevents people from getting upset... So remember South Parkateers, in case of a volcano, stop, drop, tuck and roll. ... Oh wait, er, you know what I mean. ;)
From what I remember about reading Moogie's forum guideline awhile ago, it says that by adding the letters j/k together at the end of a sentence or post, it prevents people from getting upset... So remember South Parkateers, in case of a volcano, stop, drop, tuck and roll. ... Oh wait, er, you know what I mean. ;)
Sinful Force

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 1989
Joined: Wed Oct 21 2009 2:24am
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Ghostly Jenn » Wed Sep 22 2010 10:13am

Although the bustiness and the revealingness of the chicks in this game bothers me, I rather do like their designs. They're neat. I'm particularly fond of the witch look, hence why I'm so in love with Amitalilly/Amitalira (Amitaliri according to some sites; maybe my sister's game is broke or something, 'cos she definitely says Amitalira and that's what it says on the screen).

I'm actually excited to play this game. While it may not hold the same look and feel as the old Shining games we love and adore, it at least still holds the same feel as the games they've been producing. So at least they're staying in the same general area of feel and whatnot.

The only thing I'm really disappointed with is that they aren't bringing the old Shining feel to it. While I, myself, like these new games as a type of alternate universe, I would like to see them try to bring back the old games and old storyline and work on it. Not to say there's anything wrong with it currently, I'd just like to see something that at least involves the old storyline. Like possibly have it thousands of years in the future, but still bring up old things like what happened to Max and Dark Dragon...

Yeah... I like the new games. :shifty: And I wanna play this one.
I don't know how to be [...]; it doesn't get better and it doesn't get easier. I can't keep lying to myself saying I'm gonna change, I'm poison. I come from poison, I have poison inside me, and I destroy everything I touch. That's my legacy; I have nothing to show for the life that I've lived and I have nobody in my life who's better off for having known me.
I don't know how to be [...]; it doesn't get better and it doesn't get easier. I can't keep lying to myself saying I'm gonna change, I'm poison. I come from poison, I have poison inside me, and I destroy everything I touch. That's my legacy; I have nothing to show for the life that I've lived and I have nobody in my life who's better off for having known me.
Ghostly Jenn

Greetings Traveler
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 3094
Joined: Thu Sep 16 2004 9:33pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Martin III » Thu Sep 23 2010 1:20am

Sinful Force @ Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:40 am) wrote: It's just that the drawing look even more realistic. It's like I can feel their soft skin realistic. Sorry if that sounds perverse.

If you're comparing the in-game graphics, maybe, but the artwork for Shining Force III, Shining Tears, etc. looks just as realistic to me. (I won't even get into the swimsuit statues from Shining Tears and Shining Wind...)

Also, while SF3 had the odd smoking chick here and there, it wans't like the entire party was comprised of mostly nothing but beautifull divas that scream "touch me, feel me" in a nice sexy moaning type of voice (isn't that in a song?).


Only because the SF3 party is much, much larger. Once the quota of a half dozen sexy chicks in skimpy clothing was filled, the SF3 team still had 50 characters left to design. (Just to clarify, I'm only putting it that way for clarity's sake; I have no reason to believe the women were designed first.)

Shining Hearts also has the advantage that the girls look more natural, with none of the oddness(as you put it) of the SF3 girls. They're dressed and posed like normal women, not as though they're masquerading as the harem of a rich pervert with eccentric tastes. :eww:

Ghostly Adam) wrote:Yeah... I like the new games. :shifty:


Ditto. Some are excellent, some otherwise, but overall I like them.
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
Martin III

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 4984
Joined: Mon Jul 17 2006 4:30pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Omega Entity » Thu Sep 23 2010 1:58am

So far, the game itself, although not really Shining-esque, looks solid enough that I'd likely pick it up if it's released over here. And if the rest of the music is as nice as that opening track, then I think I might have to track down the soundtrack as well.
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
(8:23:54 PM) YsFanatic18: She was feedigng horses
(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
(8:24:07 PM) ahath714: She stuffs.
(8:24:39 PM) ehow1990: ask a stupid question and everybody has an answer XD
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
(8:23:54 PM) YsFanatic18: She was feedigng horses
(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
(8:24:07 PM) ahath714: She stuffs.
(8:24:39 PM) ehow1990: ask a stupid question and everybody has an answer XD
Omega Entity

User avatar
*jiggle*
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 11327
Joined: Fri Mar 06 2009 11:43pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Shining Hopeful » Thu Sep 23 2010 3:03pm

Watched the debut trailer and the long trailer. Very pretty and all that but could not get much of a feel for the gameplay. Looks turn-based, but cannot say for sure. Trouble is, its on the PSP which I don't have and don't really want. However if it does well it may open the door for a Shining game on another platform, which can only be a good thing.
Shining Hopeful

User avatar
Shining Hero
Shining Hero
 
Posts: 694
Joined: Wed Nov 16 2005 4:10pm
Location: Southampton, England

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Martin III » Thu Sep 30 2010 12:39am

Omega Entity @ Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:58 am) wrote: So far, the game itself, although not really Shining-esque, looks solid enough that I'd likely pick it up if it's released over here. And if the rest of the music is as nice as that opening track, then I think I might have to track down the soundtrack as well.

Yeah, they've been doing quite well with opening themes. I still periodically get the Feather theme stuck in my head.
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
"Sir Reginald, Duke of Chutney! ...And don't stick your tongue out at me, kid." - Disney's Robin Hood

"Hey, where's my Holy Grail?!" - Shining Tears X Wind
Martin III

User avatar
Shining Legend
Shining Legend
 
Posts: 4984
Joined: Mon Jul 17 2006 4:30pm

Re: Shining Hearts Trailer

Postby Dreco3000 » Sat Dec 24 2011 10:57pm

I've been on hiatus awhile but from what I see of gameplay in these trailers it primarily focuses on smaller team battles like 3v3 or 4b4 from the looks of it and while I'm glad to see it looks also turn based as its refreshing to see a new shining game do that however I have a bad feeling that the days of big team turn based shining games are behind us
Dreco3000

User avatar
Member
Member
 
Posts: 95
Joined: Tue May 22 2007 10:03pm


Return to Shining Hearts

Who is online

Users viewing this topic: No registered users and 1 guest