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Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07 2012 7:36am
by Cupwalkerz
Anyone know what some of the stat points are or what they do like,
ATK, DEF, INT, MGR, AGL, MOV
I know the obvious ones but things like MOV, AGL and MGR, I have completely no idea about what it does. I never really played much RPG games but i'm sure that i've never seen those terms. Is there already a topic on this, if so could anyone provide a link please '~' Thanks

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07 2012 1:02pm
by sulfuroxp
ATK = Attack
DEF = Defense
INT = Intelligence
MGR = Magical Resistance
AGL = Agility
MOV = Movement

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07 2012 11:55pm
by Simpelicity
sulfuroxp wrote:ATK = Attack
DEF = Defense
INT = Intelligence
MGR = Magical Resistance
AGL = Agility
MOV = Movement


That is all right.

Notes on INT and AGI

intelligence will increase spell potency, possibly elemental attack power but I haven't confirmed it.

as for AGI, in this game it helps determine turn order (I have a suspicion FC also has something to do with it...) AND as far as I can tell makes the red zone in the attack bar larger, or helps do that, because I think it takes into account the enemy agility as well and gives you a bar that is representative of how easy/hard it would be for that character (with that AGI) to hit that monster (with that AGI).

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08 2012 1:38am
by sulfuroxp
no, only Spell power (and Heal power)

yes about FC, but not about the bar
each class has its bar

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08 2012 4:55am
by Cupwalkerz
Thanks, been wondering about what those were for quite a while now been adding those point mainly to ATT and sometimes DEF. For some reason, my Jin is weaker than bail in ATK and especially DEF, I'm thinking that I messed up in the character development? What stats does your characters have?
BTW :eyebrow: my Jin is ATK 65, DEF 28, INT 13, MGR 15, AGL 21, MOV 12 and its now lvl 10
Bail is ATK 67, DEF 36, INT 12, MGR 13, AGL 17, MOV 15
Miriam is ATK 54, DEF 21, INT 33, MGR 23, AGL 28, MOV 12... is it bad?

And thanks for the info :)

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08 2012 5:05am
by Simpelicity
sulfuroxp wrote:no, only Spell power (and Heal power)

yes about FC, but not about the bar
each class has its bar


If it is class, then not just class. The bar varies, depending on the enemy most likely. But unless you tell me you translated it out of the game, I'll hold on to my theory a little longer. Yours is also a working theory mind you, but it's still missing an element : the variable. Because classes don't vary.

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08 2012 6:05am
by Cupwalkerz
Wait, Does INT also contribute to FCMAX ATK?

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08 2012 1:40pm
by sulfuroxp
vary, if the weapon is A, B or C type
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i don't know, I think MAX FORCE is physical

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08 2012 6:04pm
by Simpelicity
sulfuroxp wrote:vary, if the weapon is A, B or C type
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i don't know, I think MAX FORCE is physical


I was asking for a source. Since you don't give me one, I'll assume it just comes from your experience with the game.

So consider this : the weapon types affect AGL. I assume you noticed a change in their attack bar after upgrading a weapon, but it may not necessarily be tied to the weapon, it might be to a stat affected by the new weapon.

Also, when I say varies, I recall the attack bar changing mid-battle. I have a terrible memory at times, so I need to recheck my videos. But if I remember correctly, it did happen. So even if it is the weapon type, there is a variable proper to the battle, because the weapon type did not change midway. Now, if I remember corretly, it happened against a boss. I want to say the first Honker fight (it's what I call him. um, that dude that comes back later with a friend who's a mythological creature based off a cretan king. Trying to be vague to avoid spoilers again...) but it could be another boss. Point is, it happened against a boss. That's how I got my idea. Bosses tend to have significantly higher stats than their underlings, and if I recall in Honker's case that's visible in AGL. I was attributing the sudden change to less favorable comparison between 2 stats. If the bar takes into account stats then bosses are automatically harder to hit since their stats are higher. I thought of AGL because of the characters that constantly have the easier bar : the high AGL ones.

So that's my full reasoning. How do you come to your conclusion?

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09 2012 12:21am
by sulfuroxp
my new conclusion

the bar is affected by the level, yours and enemy level

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09 2012 2:35am
by Simpelicity
sulfuroxp wrote:my new conclusion

the bar is affected by the level, yours and enemy level


Ah now that's another working theory I suppose. I imagine you're still going for class as a factor though, right? Any reasoning behind it, or random hypothesis?

Regardless, it will take more serious testing to figure out exactly.

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18 2012 11:32pm
by StorMyu
despite the fact that you can attack one / two or three people depending on the Class of your weapon, I never really thought about the leveling stats. If you found something just tell me

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19 2012 12:29am
by Simpelicity
StorMyu wrote:despite the fact that you can attack one / two or three people depending on the Class of your weapon, I never really thought about the leveling stats. If you found something just tell me


Are you talking to me or to him?

For the testing I haven't gotten around to do, I was intending to test by starting anew (or from a very early save state) and give only agility to Goldilocks. Then in a much later battle, I can compare his timing bar with my LP Goldilocks, who received almost exclusively attack, and see if there's a difference. Essentially same levels, same weapon specialisation, just waaay more attack. If there's a difference it should settle it.

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19 2012 6:20pm
by StorMyu
to any who could answer ^^

Re: Character Level Up Stats

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19 2012 6:28pm
by Simpelicity
StorMyu wrote:to any who could answer ^^


Well I actually got around to do my test. Posted the result in the guide thread, thought it'd be more relevant there than in level up stats.