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Postby knight0fdragon » Tue Jun 06 2006 11:15am

Cant find that fight you were looking for??? Well scroll through here then.

Those who make a mess can live in it lol.


Also on a side note, the competition I am in ends in 2 days. Anyone with good photoshop skills want to have fun and also help me out?
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Postby joelsylvie » Wed Jun 28 2006 4:33pm

Hello knight0fdragon
Anyone with good photoshop skills want to have fun and also help me out?


Maybe I can help?
I've Photoshop 6,0 + Illustrator 8,0 + Quark XPress 4,0 + some decent skills + my partner is professionnel graphist + I have some free time.

But, I have an iMac 9,04. Does it fit with your files?

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Re: The OT

Postby knight0fdragon » Thu Jun 29 2006 4:23am

yea, what I need is something thats 192x384

it will contain 2 images of almost the same thing at 192x192

but the trick is, the bottom needs 10 changed different from the top, and the 10 changes need to be at least 5 pixels apart from each other, an example looks like this


Id like some from any the shining forces so that could be your focus on it
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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Thu Jun 29 2006 6:37am

hello K0D

I've sent you an email with 2 attached files in order to show you differences about resolution. Is that kind of change you want?

but the trick is, the bottom needs 10 changed different from the top, and the 10 changes need to be at least 5 pixels apart from each other, an example looks like this

sorry, I'm not sure I understand :
I've downloaded the attached file, used Stufflt Expander (Mac OS 9), got a 3.bmp picture and opened this only picture with Photoshop.
Then, I found no differences about pixel's color, between the bottom (half part of the picture ?) and the top.
The resolution is of course the same, as it's in the same picture!!
So, I think this is just the initial example; and not the final example ( = the result you want).
Where is this final example?
So, with these examples, could you explain to me more about that you want as 10 changes for the bottom (half part of the picture ?) ?
And do you want 10 changes (of what?) in one picture? or 10 differents versions ( = 10 pictures) with one change?

the 10 changes need to be at least 5 pixels apart from each other

Please, can you write this "quote" sentence again, with more simple sentences. my english is not fluent enough.

Thanks

If you think it will be too difficult or boring or will takes too much time for you to deal with me(I know how many thinks you are involved in), I can understand you could not be OK. But I only need some initial understandings.

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Re: The OT

Postby knight0fdragon » Thu Jun 29 2006 11:23am

i do not want that picture changed

that is the final image

it must be 192px x 384px where px = pixel or dots

this image here is the same image imprinted twice

so there is 2 images of the same picture at 192px x 192px one on top of each other

but take a careful look at that picture

between the top half and the bottom half there are exactly 10 differences

all differences have to be on the bottom


each of the differences on the bottom screen need to be a certain distance apart that is 5 dots or pixels
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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Thu Jun 29 2006 12:31pm

Hello K0D

i do not want that picture changed
that is the final image
it must be 192px x 384px where px = pixel or dots
this image here is the same image imprinted twice
so there is 2 images of the same picture at 192px x 192px one on top of each other
but take a careful look at that picture
between the top half and the bottom half there are exactly 10 differences

That's OK.
And I've found 8 "additive" differences + 1 "subtractive" difference + 1 color's difference (red->blue for the medals)

all differences have to be on the bottom
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I thought you have already done it for this attached file. Right ? or not?

THE QUESTION IS : Which is the still original (initial) image ? the top image, I think?
Which is the modified image? the bottom image, I think?
Right ? or not?

each of the differences on the bottom screen need to be a certain distance apart that is 5 dots or pixels

APART from what? :confused:
towards left? top? :confused:
and what the meaning for you of "apart"

Sorry for asking you again.
Maybe send me something to do so as to clarify what the purpose of all those things!
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Re: The OT

Postby knight0fdragon » Thu Jun 29 2006 4:37pm

nevermind man, i dont need my imaged edited, i need fresh new ones
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Re: The OT

Postby Evil Gately » Fri Jun 30 2006 11:21am

Not meaning to boast or anything, but I got a very high grade for my English Language A Level... (Well, an A, actually!)

I'd be more than happy to proof-read anything that you wanna send my way as I'm really keen to get involved with the project and my japanese is limited to understanding "Konichiwa," "Sayonara" and "Ne rai!"
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Re: The OT

Postby legalize freedom » Fri Jun 30 2006 12:36pm

Evil, I believe we are set for proof readers right now, but I can keep you in mind in case you're needed in the future.



nayten, how does that site reach japanese literate people more than SFC? I think someone who was familiar with the games (and possibly a member of SFC) would be a better fit, but beggars can't be choosers. I'm not opposed to posting there if you think it will help, and I don't think we have to worry about over-exposure.


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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Fri Jun 30 2006 2:49pm

Hello K0D
nevermind man, i dont need my imaged edited, i need fresh new ones

nevermind man, I'll create very soon fresh new ones! :cool:
Great understanding, isn't it? :thumbsup:
BTW, what Shining Force would you prefer first? :confused:
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Sorry legalize freedom, :blush:

I'm going to stop replies on this Topic whose purpose is certainly different than playing at "10 differences' game".

Sorry again :blush:
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Re: The OT

Postby legalize freedom » Fri Jun 30 2006 6:22pm

It doesn't bother me... take care of K0D's images for the contest...


But why did the original "A call for help" topic get renamed and moved outside the translation forum?


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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Sat Jul 01 2006 2:53am

Hello K0D

When do you want to receive the first "10 differences" image?
Maybe I'll need 2 days since now, or less time.
Special one whose name is "Mystery Resolved", with characters from SF3 scen1 and 3.
Not a battle screenshot.

As I don't know the purpose of all those things (you didn't told why you want them; I'm OK to help the ones working on translation, but will it be indeed from some help for translation project?), you should better send me some battle's screenshots you want for several Shining forces, because it's much more easy for you; the ones I found are not great, with bad resolution.

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Re: The OT

Postby knight0fdragon » Sat Jul 01 2006 4:05am

the images are not for the translation, it is for the contest I am in.

I submitted my work and can't wait for the results

I am gonna take some time off and spend it with the woman ;) ;) ;)

Then I will try to get my sh!t together and get back to this project
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Re: The OT

Postby legalize freedom » Sat Jul 01 2006 12:51pm

I've got my fingers crossed...
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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Mon Jul 03 2006 1:23am

Hello K0D

Here is a first image I've just created.

It's name is :

M.R. = MANUPIL - ROLLY = MYSTERY RESOLVED :shock: :cool:

I've found some decent screenshots, but only for SF3, Scen1.

So,right now on, it's up to you : if you do want more images, send me some screenshots you agree to.

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Re: The OT

Postby knight0fdragon » Mon Jul 03 2006 6:30am

looks good, but do me a favor and dont use a jpeg, send the bmp, because it breaks my program, my guess is jpeg has too many color differences between the two
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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Mon Jul 03 2006 9:53am

K0D Hello

So I've changed jpeg into bmp.
It's the first time I use bmp.( = bitmap?)

The next one is one the way : S.F. = Switching Flowers; maybe this night.
(battle screenshot)

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BTW, what shall I do with xxxx.ico files?
I've got some, for SF3, I was not able to open.
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Postby knight0fdragon » Mon Jul 03 2006 2:48pm

ok the picture itself looks really good

but

theres a slight problem

to the normal eye, you cant notice this

but to a computer the entire screen is different to each other

this is due to you originally working in jpeg

What I must ask you to do is start with the original top image again

and carefully place in all the changes, and make sure you save your work as BMP not JPEG, perfect color quality is a must
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Re: The OT

Postby joelsylvie » Wed Jul 05 2006 11:25pm

Hello K0D
but
theres a slight problem
to the normal eye, you cant notice this
but to a computer the entire screen is different to each other


So, my 2 days' work are useless, only because you were not willing to spend 2 minutes for explaining me what you really wanted!

When you ask for help, as you did, take SOME TIME to explain what you want.
And with french or non english people, you have to be MORE PATIENT and EXPLAIN MORE!!

I've been asking you to explain me many things, and I didn't get the appropriate response to my questions.
I was really willing to help you (as the leader of the translation project), so I decided to go on, in spite of all that stuff!.
What I must ask you to do is start with the original top image again

No, you must not.
Working together seems impossible : no understanding between us, even though I did try.

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Re: The OT

Postby knight0fdragon » Thu Jul 06 2006 12:33am

look buddy, go take some midol and ease those cramps, I can not help it if your image gives me a change on every pixel because you saved it on a jpeg, I am not forcing you to do this, you chose to do this on your own, if you have problems understanding you should ask more questions, because I do not know how much english you know, you seem to know a big deal, and to a native speaker of english it seems natural to me so its hard to explain to someone not fluent
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