Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14 2009 1:09pm
by Swalchy
Please Read the FAQ Topic First - Translation Project FAQ

Realising that in the FAQ I had mentioned there would be a topic dedicated to errors found in the beta released sections, and that there wasn't any, I shall now be posting three topics, one each for each scenario (to keep things tidy and non-confusing).

So, in this topic, please notify us of errors/bugs/problems/etc that you find in beta released sections of Scenario 3.

Thank you :D

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14 2009 1:41pm
by alex_man

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14 2009 2:55pm
by Swalchy
*twitches*

Please
Read
The
First
Damn
POST!

So, in this topic, please notify us of errors/bugs/problems/etc that you find in beta released sections of Scenario 3.


There are currently NO BETA released sections of Scenario 3

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14 2009 5:35pm
by kight
Maybe you should lock this topic until some part of Sc3 makes it to beta?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14 2009 6:13pm
by Swalchy
kight @ Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:35 pm) wrote: Maybe you should lock this topic until some part of Sc3 makes it to beta?

You sir, are a genius.

Mod lock, for the time being, please :D

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05 2009 12:54pm
by legalize freedom
I am aware of the end of chapter 1 crash and the minor Ch2 issues.

Sc3 Patch

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30 2009 11:25am
by T300
Odd this, half the time, the character classes, weapon names, and everything on the character menu is in full english (including names of special attacks, etc), and half the time, it's back in Japanese.

Yet I SWEAR when I played it before, it was all in English throughout. Has anyone any ideas?

Scenario 3 End of 1st chaper

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25 2010 3:52pm
by tm8six
I have an issue with getting past the 1st chaper in scenario 3 after the most recent translation files have been used. I try doing a save state and then load it with the JAP versiob to get past the freezing but that doesnt work either. I cant use a priest because for some reason every time i turn it on it says i need 381 blocks free. I guess i have 2 issues. I deleted my Scenario 1 game because 3 loaded from 2. But i still dont have enough blocks free. I jsut want to get past the 1st chapter, and suggestions??

Re: Scenario 3 End of 1st chaper

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25 2010 4:28pm
by Cullsoft
The internal memory doesn't have enough room for both an Sc2 and Sc3 save... if you've still got an Sc2 save, you'd need to get rid of that once you've started a new Sc3 game (i.e. start the Sc3 game from the Sc2 file, go to the Priest, choose save, delete the Sc2 file then immediately save your Sc3 game).

Once that's done, you should be able to restart the emulator using the original Japanese disc, load the save file as normal and hopefully get past the problem; I'm guessing you're trying to use a save state to get round the problem, which probably means that whatever data's causing the freeze is still "active" (loading a save as normal means such data is not yet "active").

Re: Scenario 3 End of 1st chaper

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25 2010 4:53pm
by BoneIdol
Wait, if you're using an emulator, why don't you save the game on an external memory card file? That has room for dozens of SF3 saves. It's usually a case of going to the emulator's options and setting the external slot to be Backup Ram (everything else is usually to do with RAM expansions for games like Darkstalkers).

The only reason you couldn't do this is because you're using Satourne. I'm not 100% sure and I haven't used it that much, but I simply couldn't find a way to set it to use a memory card. Frankly, Satourne is a bit crappy compared to SSF and Yabause. :(

If you are using Satourne and need to backup your savefiles, the next update of my SF3Edit program (which is going to be released on Sunday) is going to be able to work with all emulator file types and let you convert between emulator savefiles. You could use it to back the file up as an SSF file (or switch to a better emulator like SSF ;)).

If you can't get a memory card working with your emulator and can't wait 'till Sunday, just do as Culley says and delete your Scenario 2 savefile to make room for Scenario 3.

Culley O'Fursdom @ Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:28 pm) wrote:I'm guessing you're trying to use a save state to get round the problem, which probably means that whatever data's causing the freeze is still "active" (loading a save as normal means such data is not yet "active").


A savestate isn't going to work and will most likely crash the game and/or the emulator if you make a savestate on the untranslated game, switch to the translated version and then load the state. A savestate is a dump of everything in the emulated Saturn's memory - that's why all your savefiles total 64kb and your savestates are several MB each. If whats in the Saturn's memory suddenly doesn't match whats on the disc bad things are going to happen.

Re: Scenario 3 End of 1st chaper

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25 2010 6:17pm
by Cullsoft
BoneIdol @ Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:53 pm) wrote: A savestate isn't going to work and will most likely crash the game and/or the emulator if you make a savestate on the untranslated game, switch to the translated version and then load the state. A savestate is a dump of everything in the emulated Saturn's memory - that's why all your savefiles total 64kb and your savestates are several MB each. If whats in the Saturn's memory suddenly doesn't match whats on the disc bad things are going to happen.

That's kinda what I suspected - in the past I've loaded up different ROMs from the same game (e.g. different language or region versions) and tried using save states, only to find that the states give slightly glitchy (though usually playable) results. Having not tried them myself, I wasn't sure if you could still get away with using save states between patched and unpatched discs. Ta for clearing that up. :)

Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07 2010 11:07pm
by jammo2010
Hey mates. Really fab job you're doing on this - finished scenario's 1 and 2 and just recently started on number 3. If there's any way to donate please give me details!

I have a bit of a problem. I'm playing without the discs, and i patch scenario three via daemon tools. Chapter 1 is fine - perfectly translated.

But after the final battle with goriate, it says 'chapter end' then the screen goes blank and does nothing. I've tried re-patching / creating new iso's but i've had no luck. My iso is 424 MB - is this correct?

I don't think its an emulator issue as the emulator itself does not crash. It just doesn't proceed to the next chapter. I've tried fiddling with emulator settings aswell but still no luck.

Wondering if anyone can help or if anyone has the same difficulty and a way around it?

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07 2010 11:08pm
by Aldur
No known fix yet, so what you do is same in game before you beat the boss, load, an unpatched ISO and then play through to the start of chapter 2 and switch back to translated iso.

Note: An in game save, NOT A SAVE STATE =)

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07 2010 11:16pm
by jammo2010
Ahh i see, just tried to load a state save on an unpatched and got 'load error' - I'll try a regular save now, but bollox I might have only saved after the dialogue at the end :\

nvm - it worked - thanks alot!

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08 2010 12:08am
by Aldur
Welcome dood

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16 2010 12:41pm
by Khizer#1
Well u could use the boneidol's SF3 save file editor.
Save in the downtown destonia.Use flag save.

scenario 3 final chapter - crash problem

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29 2010 7:16pm
by jammo2010
Hi,

I have a problem with the final chapter where my game crashes as soon as i'm about to enter synbios' final battle (directly after the cathedral).

The priest shows up and the language isn't right either - have tried patching it multiple times..

As soon as the dialogue finishes i just get a black screen - is this the same issue as the scenario 1 one where i need to use the japanese disc to surpass it?

Thanks in advance

Re: scenario 3 final chapter - crash problem

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29 2010 8:36pm
by Cullsoft
Is this a problem with the original game or when using the translation patch?

Re: scenario 3 final chapter - crash problem

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29 2010 11:26pm
by jammo2010
Translation patch. Have it working now but the first 3 battles before the final battle never translated properly - tried loads of times. The last battle and the ending are ok though

Re: scenario 3 final chapter - crash problem

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30 2010 12:26pm
by legalize freedom
That's because those areas haven't been released yet.

Re: scenario 3 final chapter - crash problem

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06 2010 2:45pm
by BoneIdol
--EDIT--

I had a post here suggesting there was a problem with the final battle when a certain weapon was equipped. This turned out to be wrong. :blush:

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25 2010 5:40pm
by maliciousheart
I have this same problem, I saved just before killing the boss in a regular battle save, switched to the japanese ISO, and then continued on. But I still get the blank screen and I can't continue on to chapter 2.

Everyone else says switching to the japanese version should get me past it but I still get the same problem. Anyone have a solution?

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26 2010 5:28pm
by Sinful Force
How about some more info from your end? Like are you playing on a Saturn console or emulation (SSF), and do you own the game or just an ISO?

If your playing through emulation, try a different version of SSF. If you downloaded an ISO, try downloading a different one.

And you know a regular battle save is on the system's Internal RAM or External RAM cartridge? Not a save state, in other words.


There is bound to be a bunch of other things you can try, but in the meantime try documenting what you're trying with what results. And then maybe someone here can help you further.

Re: Scenario 3 chapter 1 crash issue?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27 2010 5:28am
by maliciousheart
I'm playing on an emulation and using SSF 009 alpha R4. I don't own scenario 3 CD and I have 2 versions of the japanese ISO, both of which give me the same result. My battle save is saved to my internal ram.

I saved just before the last hit on Goriate, changed to the japanese ISO, everything is converted to japanese like normal, but I still get the frozen screen at the end and am unable to proceed. Same thing with a different ISO I downloaded.

I can't figure out the reason.

---EDIT---

After lurking around the forums a little, I decided to try and download a different version of SSF. I used SSF 008 alpha R10 and it worked fine. Leaving the old information in this edit as it might help others that encountered the same problem as I did.

Thanks forums. Now I can finally finish the best series in the entire world. :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11 2010 1:19pm
by Swalchy
Just using this as a quick notification system for the guys working on the text inputting.

Alpha found that you've mixed up a line at the end of the second chapter:

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Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11 2010 5:58pm
by BoneIdol
May as well post this

I was speedrunning through scenario 3 to get a ton of save files a few weeks ago and lost interest halfway through. I made a point of collecting any glaringly obvious bugs in the script I could find.

Chapter 2

Opening Scene

- Donhort - So I decided to cut myself offas well. The only way left for me, after being disappointed with living in this world, is to live with Gracia. (Missing space)
- Besby - ...and why you decided to come to the Empire with Gracia. And I believe my way is also now chosen. (Bad Grammar with the And at start of a sentence, since its dialogue can probably be ignored)


Church Scene with Cyclops and Scholar

- Isabella - Even thought Destonia was saved by\n the Army, you are being driven away. (Line starts with a space and your would make more sense than the)
- Scholar - Then please forgive my protectiveness. (Ideally would be something like "Please forgive me for being overprotective", but there's not a lot of space)


Dragon Graveyard

- Cyclops - I'm sorry the dragons did not listen. (There was only one dragon)


Guarder Fortress

Defenda has someone else's lines - Let us pass, Defenda, and we'll be on our way. There will only be death if you don't let us through! (this is the one you posted Swalchy)

Defenda's battle sprite has the name Blue Dragon 133


Chapter 3 Start

Steel - You are lucky Gracia, next time we meet, I will get you. Bet on in. (Count on it might be better?)


Chapter 3 Headquarters

Melinda - ...From now on, I live for the sake of my sons. (Children, since she has a son and a daughter)


Chapter 3 Produn Battle

Produn - If I don't defeat the Julian army I'll lose you... (Text is so long that it cuts off screen)


Chapter 3 Kudan Battle

Kudan - Who are you?With what purpose... (Missing space after question mark)


Chapter 3 End of Kudan Battle

Kate - Bulzome is more fearsome
than
I had imagined... (than is orphaned in 2nd line)

Synbios - I can't believe this. I never would have thought that the invasion force would be led by y... (cuts off screen on second line)

Medion - It is awkward for us to meet again like this, Synbios.
However,
fate has brought us together. (However is orphaned on second line)

Domaric - Finally, my dearest wish of 20 years has been fulfilled. I, Domaric have returned to the teritory that was stolen by Conrad. (Should be an extra , after Domaric and the line breaks make for some seriously dodgy looking whitespace)

Domaric - Synbios, son of Conrad, eh? The one who defeated Arrawnt... I have many things to thank you
for... (for is a widow on the last line)

Synbios - Prince Medion...
I thought you were
different. No I believe you still are. (silly line breaks)

Dantares - Huh? How does Prince Medion know about Sir Don... (Line cuts off edge of screen)

Domaric - Why are Melinda and Isabella with Republican Sol... (Line cuts off edge of screen)

Isabella - We know you bribed Medion with threats to mother's life to persuade him to help you conquer Aspia. (Coerced would make more sense)

Domaric - How could I have missed this chance?
Even with the loss of Arrawnt...
I thought Bulzome's interfeance... (Screwed line breaks, text has awful whitespace)

Medion - I'd like to escort father back to the Empire first. After that, I will join the
expedition. (expedition is a widow)


Chapter 4 Start

Brigit - You didn't come back, so the queen and I came looking for you. (She's with Isabella, who's the Princess)

Medion - -yelling- Julian, see you in the nor... (Cuts off screen)

When Julian recieves the Justice Sword for saving the refugees, it says his hands are full (when they're not) and that he passed it to Synbios.

Pendolf - Will you allow Pendolf to join your force? (Pendolf is saying this with a portrait, perhaps say "will you allow me to join your force?"


Chapter 4 End

- End text says Chapter ? End


Maya Village Headquarters

Primula - He along with Rodi the Ninja, Lisa the Soldier and several others prevented the fire from spreading to other countries. (Grammar is a bit iffy, also Lisa was a Paladin according to the english STHA)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11 2010 6:08pm
by Swalchy
Before the floodgates open: don't post *too* many errors that all you lovely people see in Scenario 3 - none of it has been released in Beta form yet, so there's probably gonna be quite a lot of spelling and/or text inputting errors.

And I'm not too sure how far along the translation reviewers have got on with checking the text we use for the dialogue, so there's probably gonna be a lot of translational/grammar type issues.

Saying that, I think Boneidol's pretty much notified everyone of the major ones seen in the main translational section of Scenario 3.


So no townsfolk dialogue errors, please :)

They're not that important at the moment :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12 2010 9:23pm
by Alpha
I'm playing through Sc3 for the first time, so I thought I may as well note down errors as I go. Couple of things I've noticed.

After you reduce the gate to 0hp at the Barrier battle with Defenda, the game freezes like it did at the end of Chapter 1. You need the disc to continue and allow Defenda to come down. Amusingly, finishing Chapter 2 is fine and doesn't have the Chapter 1 error.

I also noticed a mistake in Steel's lines that BoneIdol missed. Right before he says "We won't be held responsible for anything that happens after we leave her with you", "executed" is spelled "excuted".

Final Chapter - No Released

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21 2010 3:51am
by Koto
A silly question here: That means the text in Final Chapter is completely in Japanese?

See ya

Re: Final Chapter - No Released

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21 2010 4:18am
by -_-lll
Hmmm the script in the Remotest Cathedral are in English. But is strictly IN the cathedral or rather the church chamber. If I am not wrong base and town are no script instead of japanese (LF correct me if town is japanese).

The battle should be in English... ending story some of the English script layout seems to be out of syn.

Re: Final Chapter - No Released

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21 2010 6:29am
by legalize freedom
It's a moot point. The final chapter will be released with the next version of the patch in about a month.

problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21 2010 12:33pm
by ericm
I just finished scenario 2 and I would like to start the 3rd one..I realize its not 'done' but, can anyone tell me what specifically are the problems with the translation at this point, ala whats not done/out of place?

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21 2010 11:42pm
by mesmer
The only major problem is the known freeze when chapter 1 ends. This means you should finish the last fight with the original disc.

Apart from that, only the final chapter isn't translated. All the other chapters, albeit unreviewed by the translators, are in English and they're perfectly playable.

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22 2010 11:44pm
by Kalkano
Also, the bookcase is nice and glitched. Not a big deal, though. I'm on the final chapter now, just leveling up in the Hero's Test. I see no reason to wait to play it. Up to this point, all story related scenes work fine. It's only villagers in the final chapter that aren't done yet. You can always look at some of the scripts if you need to as well.

Re: Final Chapter - No Released

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22 2010 11:54pm
by Kalkano
legalize freedom @ Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:29 pm) wrote: It's a moot point. The final chapter will be released with the next version of the patch in about a month.

Awesome. I'm already at the final chapter, but I plan on getting everyone in all parties (except the penguins) to second promoted level 20. It will probably take me quite a while since I'll probably get bored of playing the hero test over and over again. Timing should work well.

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24 2010 1:22am
by bigrand
Do you need the actual disk or just an unpatched scenario three? The problem is when i try the unpatched game, no savestates are loadable from the patched game?

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24 2010 1:44am
by BoneIdol
bigrand @ Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:22 am) wrote:Do you need the actual disk or just an unpatched scenario three? The problem is when i try the unpatched game, no savestates are loadable from the patched game?

Yeah, that's a feature, not a bug in my eyes. ;)

Even if you could load the savestate the game would probably just crash as soon as it has to read anything off the disc. A savestate is NOT a save file, it is a dump of all the memory (RAM/Graphics RAM/CPU Cache etc.) on the emulated Saturn. That's why it takes 1 MB to store all your save games and ~10 MB to store 1 savestate.

You load a savestate between versions bad things are very likely to happen since whats in the Saturn's memory doesn't match what's on the disc. :(

All you have to do is save the game as you would on an actual Saturn (at a Church/in a Battle) when transfering between the translated and Japanese version of Scenario 3.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28 2010 1:20pm
by ericm
my game doesn't freeze at the defenda battle.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02 2010 2:43am
by Alpha
ericm @ Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:20 am) wrote: my game doesn't freeze at the defenda battle.

Lucky for you.

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19 2010 3:55am
by Nirek
Speaking of saving as if on an actual Saturn, I am playing through the games on an actual Saturn (an unmodded US Saturn), using the swap trick to start the games. I just finished Scenario 1 and am hoping for Scenario 2 for Christmas. I am wondering, though, if i can get past that Scenario 3 glitch on my Saturn when i get there, in the current state. I can't really use the Japanese disk since my system won't very well play one. I was thinking that i could perhaps rip my Japanese disk, remove the region coding, burn a new disk, and play with that.

anyone know if that will work, or if there is another way to get past the glitch on an (unmodded) US Saturn?

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19 2010 4:06am
by Swalchy
Nirek @ Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:55 am) wrote: Speaking of saving as if on an actual Saturn, I am playing through the games on an actual Saturn (an unmodded US Saturn), using the swap trick to start the games. I just finished Scenario 1 and am hoping for Scenario 2 for Christmas. I am wondering, though, if i can get past that Scenario 3 glitch on my Saturn when i get there, in the current state. I can't really use the Japanese disk since my system won't very well play one. I was thinking that i could perhaps rip my Japanese disk, remove the region coding, burn a new disk, and play with that.

anyone know if that will work, or if there is another way to get past the glitch on an (unmodded) US Saturn?

That'll certainly work.

If you rip your Japanese Scenario 3, change the region code of the ISO/BIN to your Sega Saturn's region, burn the iso, you can then use the swap trick to play the Japanese Scenario 3 on your Sega Saturn using the swap trick.

It's what I did with all my Pal games to play on my White Japanese Sega Saturn, although I have a modchip rather than using the swap trick :)

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19 2010 4:35am
by Nirek
Swalchy @ Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:06 pm) wrote:That'll certainly work.

If you rip your Japanese Scenario 3, change the region code of the ISO/BIN to your Sega Saturn's region, burn the iso, you can then use the swap trick to play the Japanese Scenario 3 on your Sega Saturn using the swap trick.

It's what I did with all my Pal games to play on my White Japanese Sega Saturn, although I have a modchip rather than using the swap trick :)

Now the real question is, do you know of a tool i can use to rip my Japanese disk? ;)

i tried using alcohol 52% and it failed :(

Re: problems with scenario 3?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19 2010 2:31pm
by BoneIdol
Nirek @ Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:35 am) wrote: Now the real question is, do you know of a tool i can use to rip my Japanese disk? ;)

i tried using alcohol 52% and it failed :(

My advice is to use UltraISO. It isn't free but the trial version doesn't have a timelimit and suffices for ripping games.

You just need to insert your Japanese Disc, open UltraISO and go to Tools -> Make CD/DVD Image. Then just check the .bin/.cue option, select the drive with your SF3 disc in it and click the Make button. Job done. :)

Remotest Issue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20 2010 6:13am
by extremus
Hello,

It's been awhile since I posted; I only updated with the Version 11 patch a short while back and just got around the trying to finish Scenario 3. The reason I'd been waiting to do so is that I KNOW I'm missing out on a ton of vital information story-wise, because (SPOILER ALERT) the village is split into two factions (I'll leave it at that in case anyone read this far). I just didn't want to finish out the game without knowing why this is the case.

Anyway, when I booted up Scenario 3 tonight and played the disc, everyone was speaking in fully translated English inside the sanctuary. However, once I ventured out the doors to the other rooms all the villagers' text was fully in Japanese.

I just wanted to ask if this is actually a problem from something done on my end, or if the Remotest villager dialogue code for Version 11 was simply translated into Japanese for later translation into English by you guys; I understand that Version 11 is still a work in progress. I'd be very grateful for any clarification.

And thanks once again for all of your hard work in translating this outstanding game!

Re: Remotest Issue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20 2010 7:07am
by mesmer
The final chapter on scenario 3 isn't completely translated yet.

Re: Remotest Issue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20 2010 10:11am
by extremus
Thanks very much for the insight, Mesmer! Looking forward to seeing the last pieces come together (as I know you guys are as well)!

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14 2011 7:03pm
by Rick
From the start of the game, Gracia's Staff of Besem has the following description:

Staff- Light & Dark resist +30, Shining L2

Gracia only has Shining L1 at this point

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Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14 2011 7:08pm
by BoneIdol
Weapon descriptions list the maximum level of the spell it grants. Sadly, it isn't possible to list the actual level without changing the game's code.

I gather that the text parser in SF3 will replace certain characters with a value passed to the text box by the game. The game does not pass any values to the textbox for item descriptions. :(

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15 2011 12:20am
by legalize freedom
Do all weapons that grant spells level up their spells or just this one?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15 2011 12:51am
by Rick
They level up based on the weapon level of the character usually... in the Europe Sc1, the description usually reads 'acquires Blaze Magic' or such, it doesn't usually state the maximum level in the description iirc...

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15 2011 6:05am
by BoneIdol
The weapons text doesn't list anything like how much crit/counter goes up either. I personally like the additions; knowing the spell level is actually very handy because you can work out when your next level up is going to be.

Spell level 1 means spell level is always 1
Spell level 2 means spell level is 2 at weapon level 3 and level 1 the rest of the time
Spell level 3 means that the spell level equal to weapon level (minimum 1)
Spell level 4 means that the spell level is equal to weapon level + 1

Simples. ;)

What remains to be fixed

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07 2011 4:45pm
by Reincar
I've found a text mistake in the beginning of chapter 2 of third scenario. Can't post the image so i will just describe it. During Donhort's conversation about his new purpose for life he says "So I decided to cut myself offas well". I think the "offas" thing must be fixed. By the way, I've downloaded latest translation patch at 07.02.11.

Re: What remains to be fixed

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07 2011 10:11pm
by Cullsoft
Although I can't say for sure in this case, typos like that may be deliberate due to text and file size limits.

Re: What remains to be fixed

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07 2011 11:56pm
by legalize freedom
This is an error, but Sc3 has not been reviewed yet, so I'm sure there are hundreds.

Re: What remains to be fixed

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09 2011 2:50am
by Thief
Ah, so that's why. I don't really mind the typos, as long as the meanings get across, considering that the patch for this part of the game isn't in beta stage yet. However, I'm taking screenshots of such typos, so.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24 2011 2:30am
by Thief
Ah, this topic is handy.

Scenario 3 sure has quite some ways to go to match up to the current quality of Scenario 2's translation. :D

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24 2011 11:05am
by Rick
Multiple Errors with the shopkeepers in Destonia:

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Greeting Julian

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Looking at an item to buy

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After buying an item

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After giving a bought item to a character

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Checking the deals section

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Prices Overlapping

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24 2011 11:18am
by Thief
The mixed up greeting/response lines in the shop was annoying at first, then I thought it was perfect for an Imperial shop to belittle a foreign mercenary's affordability, then now it simply feels like a funny feature unique to Scenario 3. :thumbsup:

If only the pricing/gold counter part isn't messed up though, since it's harder to keep track of expenses. I kept running out of gold without realising it.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24 2011 12:23pm
by Rick
Did the hanging on the end of Chapter 1 occur to you too? you get the summary with no advance?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24 2011 2:07pm
by Thief
Yes, as expected. Though it gave a chance of re-watching the whole ending of Chapter 1 again in Japanese. The vocab is surprisingly not as complicated as I thought it'd be. Though, still not as satisfying as experiencing them all in English, of course.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 10:23am
by Rick
I wouldn't mind... but the cutscene is so long!

Few errors with the bookcase:

Firstly, there are no entries, they all look like this:

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Secondly, certain people have Pappetts written next to the F: (which I thought stood for Force). These are Edmund, Stella and Produn:

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Coming on to Basanda, she doesn't have anywhere written under O: (Origin?)

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And then, Ilia, from Swampland doesn't have a C: (Class?)

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And whilst it's present in these images, some of the text just kinda goes missing, Honesty didn't have a R: (Race?) listed, but I couldn't tell whether this was disappearing text or a faulty entry

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 1:13pm
by BoneIdol
Yeah bookcase is screwed in Scenario 3. It's nice and pretty in Scenario 2 though. :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 1:14pm
by legalize freedom
The Sc3 bookcase isn't finished and is not open for scrutiny... which could probably be said for all of Sc3... Although I do appreciate the identification of the lines you point out.

The previous mixed up line issues I do want to know about however. These are not really problems with the files and lines, but problems with compression. I'll recompress the Destonia files and post them when I get a chance to see if this clears it up, so keep that save handy.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 2:12pm
by Rick
righto, I'm just on the battle after that, so I'll return and create a new save

I'll go through and make a list of which shop function brings up what if that's any help?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 2:57pm
by Thief
The shopkeeper problem still exists in Foothill, so perhaps it's not localised only in Destonia.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 3:31pm
by Rick
Right, here's a breakdown of each line of text with each option at the Weapon shop and Item Shop
(Note - I didn't manage to get the lines where the shopkeepers offer deals, I've already gone past that part without realising)

Code: Select all
Item Shop

Greeting - You don't seem to have enough gold for that item. Something else, perhaps?
Farewell - Thank you very much for your patronage

Purchase options:
Buy - Would you like to buy something else?
Sell - I'd love to buy that, but you really need to unequip it first.
Repair - This ??? doesn't look broken to me. Do you have something else?
Deals - How does it feel? Well, you'll get used to it. Give it a day or two.
Cancelling Menus - Please stop by if you ever need anything.

Sub-menus

Buy:
After choosing an item, before selecting force member to hold it - Synbios already has too much to carry. Who else wants it?
When giving item to a force member with free space - Will Synbios Equip this now? (then quickly skips to the item list)
When giving item to a force member with no free space - Julian can't equip this item. Is that alright?
Cancelling a purchase after selecting an item - Do you have something else to sell? Well, let me take a look.
Giving an Accessory to a character to equip - Will Synbios Equip this now? (Then quickly skips to) How does it feel? Well, give it a couple of days to break in. (Begin equip yes/no item choice)
If Equip accessory = Yes - If you like it, please take time to look around some more
If Equip accessory = No - Do you have something else to sell? Well, let me take a look.
If accessory already equipped - Offers X amount of gold (Yes/No)
If Yes to selling equipment - I don't think you'll find a better price. Think it over and get back to me.
If No to selling equipment - That's my final offer. If that's not enough, I guess we're done.
Attempt to purchase with not enough gold - To whom should I give this?

Sell:
Choose an item to sell - I'll take the item nown (Yes/No)
If Yes - I don't think you'll find a better price. Think it over and get back to me.
After selling an item - Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.
In No - This is quite rare! I'll give you 0 gold for it (quickly skips to) Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.
Selling a 'Deal' item - In that case, let's make the trade right now (Yes/No)
If Yes - How regrettable... that's as high as I can go. Maybe next time (Skips to 'Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.')
If No - Do you have something else to sell?(Skips to 'Our shipment has been delayed, perhaps you could come back later.')


Repair:
Repairing a Broken item - Your welcome to shop around for a better price. I'll be here waiting. (Yes/No)
If Yes - There, all done, it's as good as new. Anything else to fix? (THEN repairs item)
Following repairs - Unreadable, previous text covers this line
If No - Sorry, but you need to pay up front for repairs. Something else to repair?
Reapiring a Non-Broken Item - I can't fix it unless you leave it here. Is there anything else?

Deals:
As Buying

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Weapon Shop

Greeting - Oh I'm sorry, you don't seem to have enough gold. Something else?
Farewell - One can never have too many weapons

Purchase options:
Buy - Would you like anything else?
Sell - The ??? is equipped. I can't buy it until you remove it
Repair - This ??? looks fine to me. Did you have something else?
Deals - Well, that item looks a bit rich for you blood. Something else perhaps?
Cancelling a Menu - Please feel free to stop by anytime

Sub-menus

Buy:
After choosing an item, before selecting force member to hold it - Well, Synbios already has too much to carry. Someone else?
Giving to a force member that cannot equip the weapon - If you are sure, I'll hand it over (Yes/No)
If Yes - Does Synbios want to equip this straight away? (lines underneath unreadable)
If No - Well, Synbios already has too much to carry. Someone else?
Giving to a force member that can equip the item - Does Synbios want to equip this straight away? (Skips to 'Ah, you look more fearsome than ever')
After equipping the force member with the weapon - Sentimental attachment, eh? That's OK, I won't force you. (Yes/No)
If yes - If you don't like my price, you can take it somewhere else.
After replacing an equipped item and selling the previously equipped - Unloading a weapon eh? Alright let's have a look at it.
If No - Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.
When giving item to a force member with no free space - Well, Julian can't equip this. Is that alright?
Cancelling a purchase after selecting an item - Unloading a weapon eh? Alright, let's have a look at it
Attempt to purchase with not enough gold - To whom should I give this?

Sell:
Choose an item to sell - Alright! I'll buy it. Here you go. Don't spend it all in one place. (Yes/No)
If Yes - If you don't like my price, you can take it somewhere else.
After Selling the item - Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.
If No - WOW! This is... ahem... uh, well, it's not bad, I'll give you 0 gold for it (Skips automatically to 'Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.')
Selling a 'Deal' item - Alright, I'll take it. Here's the gold (Yes/No)
If Yes - But that's a fair price... Ah fine, take it somewhere else (Skips to 'Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.')
If No - Is there anything else you want to get rid of? (Skips to 'Regrettably, I'm all sold out at the moment. I'm sorry, but please check back.')

Repair:
Repairing a Broken item - Oh, you changed your mind? Oh well, it's your choice. Something else to repair? (Yes/No)
If Yes - It's all repaired etc (THEN repairs item)
Following repairs - Unreadable, previous text covers this line
If No - I'd love to help, but you don't have enough gold. Anything else to repair?
Reapiring a Non-Broken Item - The (item name) is equipped. I can't repair it like that. Something else to repair?

Deals:
As Buying

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 6:56pm
by legalize freedom
I don't need the exact line break down. The lines are correct in the files... they just jack up when compressed.

I only need the locations such as the city.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 7:03pm
by BoneIdol
OK, I'm really bloody fed up with this bug now. When we release a new version I am going to test every single sodding area for this bug (time consuming and annoying as it is). You got a list of which files are for which areas LF so I can get a bunch of saves and test cases ready?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25 2011 7:57pm
by Rick
I've got a current save in the Destonian caverns if that's any help for you Bone?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26 2011 12:37am
by legalize freedom
I don't think that will be necessary BoneIdol but I certainly appreciate the offer. I'm certain re-compressing will fix it.

Try the DST files on the FTP.

/Translation Task Files

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26 2011 10:12am
by Thief
The shopkeeper lines mix-up is in Guarder as well.

(I just remembered how hilarious it was at first that the shopkeeper kept mentioning Synbios' name, and yet greeting you with the Empire-fitting not-enough-gold line! :thumbsup:)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26 2011 2:40pm
by legalize freedom
Try the two GL and GUILD files for Guarder.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26 2011 6:34pm
by Thief
Finally, looks like Baersol's shopkeepers are fine. :D

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04 2011 4:56pm
by Rick
Thief wrote:Finally, looks like Baersol's shopkeepers are fine. :D


Confirming this point...

Also, when Cyclops tames a dragon, the text goes beyond the screen

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05 2011 8:44am
by Thief
Aspia's shopkeepers are fine as well. But Aural experiences the same problem as the Imperial shops.
(Do I sense love for the Republic? Haha)

Also, during the intermission scene between the first two fights of Chapter 4, a story line by Benetram experiences the same fast-forward error as those guys in Anafect back in Scenario 2.

Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22 2011 10:45am
by Rick
So I thought I would wait a while and bag a load of images from Sc3 of errors with the translation patch

Firstly, and I didn't screenshot it, but Galm uses a move called 'Chaos', but it's listed everywhere as 'Chaos Cauldron' Not sure if this is a deliberate thing or not...

Anyway, here are the images and a description of where and what

Bridge Scene at Aspia: Chapter 3 - Text Outside Screen
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JuMSy
((IIRC this is something that can't be changed?))
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Gracia performing promotion - All Locations
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Crushed text: Choose File screen
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Galm Speech - Only during this greyed out section
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Dantares defeat speech: During Battle w/ Synbios force
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((I am not sure if this is present with other characters, but the following were in that battle and fine: Masqurin, Grace, Obright, Murasame, Hagane, Hayward, Ratchet, Cybel, Noon, Irene, Eldar))

Depositing an item with Benetram - Flagship (Before Rainblood King battle)
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((Note: This text appears after the item is deposited))

Remotest HQ Errors - Synbios as leader
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Image
Image
((Note: Pappetts IS sly... Produn is gonna be PISSED when he finds out it isn't his...))

Remotest HQ Errors - Medion as leader
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Remotest Chapel - Keeper promoting multiple characters
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That's all I have found SO far, I'm now going through the Heroes test and things appear to be fine

Re: Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22 2011 12:22pm
by legalize freedom
Zip these, create a log with each location (chapter, town, battle number, section, etc) and email them to me.

Re: Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22 2011 12:42pm
by Rick
Will do, I'll sort it for you later tonight mate

Re: Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22 2011 2:18pm
by Cullsoft
Rick wrote:Image
((Note: Pappetts IS sly... Produn is gonna be PISSED when he finds out it isn't his...))


XD

Re: Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22 2011 3:59pm
by Swalchy
There's already a scenario 3 error report topic :(

Re: Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22 2011 10:47pm
by Rick
sent

Re: Errors in Sc3

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23 2011 12:22pm
by legalize freedom
Swalchy wrote:There's already a scenario 3 error report topic :(


Just to clarify, I will not be revisiting any topics for errors except the actual error report topics. I might take care of the issues as they are posted, but if I'm not able to for whatever reason, they will be forgotten. Please always post errors to the error report topics.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri May 13 2011 11:24pm
by Swalchy
Okay. There are several topics that show SF3 scenario 3 errors in them.

Should I leave them as they are (separate topics), or should I merge them all into this one?

And therefore the same applies to the ones regarding Scenario 2 and 3

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat May 14 2011 3:53am
by legalize freedom
Wow, you can do that?
:spliff:

One place would be nice.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat May 14 2011 11:43am
by Swalchy
Okay. Merged several topics into this one now. I shall go through most of the 12 pages in the translation sub-forum to see what else can be merged together. No need to have 8+ topics talking about the same thing :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri May 27 2011 10:00am
by KimCheeWarrior
i couldnt help but notice that someone said that were bugs in shining force 3 scenario 3 chapter 2 with the translation patch but how did you make it to chapter 2 when the game freezes at the end of chapter 1? im using ssf by the way. i know im not that far into the game but i really hope i dont have to start all over again. i mean, i will if i have to but i wanna avoid it if i can.

from what im reading here, with the translation patch version of sf3s3, you cant get past chapter 1 right? or am i missing something here? it always gives me a black screen at the end of chapter 1.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun May 29 2011 6:42am
by Lord Kane
You can simply save ingame just before you defeat Goriate and then exchange the disc with the original disc. This way you avoid the crash point and can change back after you saved again.

Another way is to use an older version of SSF. But I don't really know, which version will work, maybe 008.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu May 03 2012 3:46pm
by Entropeople
I’d like to ask – report some sort of “bug” that happened to me: I was playing Sc 3 (Julian) and at the final of chapter 6, the battle against Medion army, every Uryudo’s action (not moving or standing still, but attacking or healing someone) the game “crashed” – I couldn’t even reset the game with the control, I had to use the reset button. This problem continues when I change to Medion (I just played at the ruins and it happened again). Did this ever happened to anyone? Luckily, I used the japanese version, and everything went fine.

Thank you guys again, and keep rockin’!!!

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue May 15 2012 8:58am
by Vapid Decree
Start of chapter 2:
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Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09 2012 5:46pm
by MagnumColim
First, I want to thank EVERYONE who made this wonderful patch! I am SO HAPPY to finally be able to play the 2nd and 3rd scenarios of the greatest console RPG ever made in English after all these years. :-)

Now to report the error I've found. After getting Marki to join your group, if you use her Proserpina spell, the game crashes. Ive found this happens if you use the Abyss Wand which casts the Proserpina spell as well. I've confirmed this both with my own disc and several different ISO's downloaded from various download sites around the net. This is the single most awesome looking spell in the entire game series in my opinion, so please look into this when you are ready to to do full testing on Scenario 3.

Finally, I would like to report that OTHER than the problem with the Proserpina spell, I've found no problems whatsoever with my gameplay of Scenario 3. Played perfectly all the way through from beginning to end for me. LOVED IT! THANK YOU ALL AGAIN SO VERY VERY MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL PATCH! WOOHOO! :-)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10 2012 2:46pm
by Synbios16
The Proserpina issue is known, but it's not caused by the translation patch, it's the game in general. If you don't have the right BIOS loaded into your emulator, the game doesn't understand how to handle that particular spell correctly. I believe that is the only bit of game that will happen to, and don't ask for the BIOS files, because supplying those is both illegal and violates board rules.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15 2012 7:04pm
by SladetheBlade
Playing through scenario 3 i got the same crash at the end of chapter 3 as i did in chapter 1, right now i would prefer not to do battle 13 again, has this happened to anyone else?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19 2012 5:29am
by MoonKnight066
Yes hi, i am playing on a real sega saturn.

I've been having trouble playing the translation but it was only minor problems occasionally, but now this is stopping me full force.

During SF3 Sc3 Chapter 4, when you fight the battle after opening the great wall, a Hell Hound attacked and the game froze with CD READ ERROR Please check cd and pickup lens. I thought, "Great the laser has finally died" in my Model 2 saturn, i tried various things with no avail. So i grabbed my swappable Model 1 from the closet with a good laser, still no luck;

Immediately after the "Shining force translation project" watermark, my game is supposed to play the opening movie, but goes to cd read error.

On -2- Sega saturns and 4 different burns at 16x, on the same media that has gotten me through Sc.1 and Sc.2 (Verbatim). I can't burn slower and finding below 16x cd's is hard anyhow.

What gives, they were working FINE previously, sometimes laggy. but now won't even get to the movie. Even when i have no Save File in the system (I thought maybe something in my save data might be triggering it?) Please help!!!!

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19 2012 12:19pm
by legalize freedom
I can't really say what your specific issue is, but I have to assume it is not a patch issue, so the request should go somewhere else.

It would not surprise me if both your saturns were having issues (but you should try adjusting the lasers). Try running the patch with an emulator and if you don't experience the same thing, we will be able to exclude the patch as a source.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02 2012 8:33pm
by theslipperyelm
I would like to second what MoonKnight066 said:

MoonKnight066 wrote:Yes hi, i am playing on a real sega saturn...

...Immediately after the "Shining force translation project" watermark, my game is supposed to play the opening movie, but goes to cd read error.

On -2- Sega saturns and 4 different burns at 16x, on the same media that has gotten me through Sc.1 and Sc.2 (Verbatim). I can't burn slower and finding below 16x cd's is hard anyhow.


My situation:

Playing SF3 on physical Sega Saturn, using the swap trick. Using downloaded and burned files. Played Scenario 1 through to completion and saved on back up ram cart. Played Scenario 2 through to completion and saved on back up ram cart. Would really like to play Scenario 3 using my existing saved files.

When I attempt to play Scenario 3 I get "CD read error" after SF Translation Project watermark, but before opening movie plays. Using the Japanese version of the game I was able to load the game and get through the opening sequence and create a Scenario 3 save continued from my other completed games.

I have tried using two different Saturn consoles, and both give me the same result. I have tried burning the patch at various speeds on multiple computers and using different downloaded ROMs. I have tried burning pre-patched ROMS. Everyone gives me the same result. Like MoonKnight I have not been able to locate a computer that will burn below 8x, so perhaps that is part of the problem.

Are MoonKnight and I the only ones experiencing these problems? It seems that most others are playing the games through emulation.

I'm posting in this section because it would appear that this is a patch issue since the Japanese version plays just fine. Any help and or advice would be appreciated.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06 2012 12:44am
by legalize freedom
I'm afraid you are not eligible for support if you are not using the original Sc3 disc with the patch.

We can't possibly rely on an ISO from the internet, so that will be what I blame every time.

And even if you were using the original disc, I would suggest you follow the instructions on the official site EXACTLY. Failing that, I would have to blame hardware if everyone doesn't have the same issue.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11 2012 3:45pm
by Chaiman
When: in the end of chapter 3 Donhort talks with Emperor about Julian and Medion.
What: I changed both Medion's and Julian names, but while Medion's name replaced correctly, Julian remains Julian.

When: Chapter 4, trying to left Aspinia/Aspia.
What: It's default Jumesyn Instead of EnMCo (Enixo, Merlin, Corwin). Screen attached.

PS: for those, who have CD read error using emuls - I have that errors in scenario 3 while using girigiri. Ssf doesn't fail me though.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29 2012 7:25am
by theslipperyelm
We can't possibly rely on an ISO from the internet, so that will be what I blame every time.

And even if you were using the original disc, I would suggest you follow the instructions on the official site EXACTLY. Failing that, I would have to blame hardware if everyone doesn't have the same issue.


Looks like your intuition was correct. I tried the patched version of Scenario 3 on a Model 2 Saturn and it works just fine. I therefore surmise that the patched version of scenario 3 does not work on Model 1 Saturns. The internet ISO was reliable, it was my hardware that let me down.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29 2012 1:24pm
by legalize freedom
I would assume it is that particular saturn, not all model 1 saturns. It probably just needs a laser adjustment. In general burned discs are harder to read than factory pressed.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08 2012 8:32pm
by theslipperyelm
I would assume it is that particular saturn, not all model 1 saturns. It probably just needs a laser adjustment. In general burned discs are harder to read than factory pressed.


I can appreciate your skepticism, but FYI, I tried this on two Model 1 Saturns with the same exact result. I'd be interested to hear from someone who had success with Scenario 3 on a Model 1, i.e. laser repair etc. Perhaps the older a Saturn is and it's relative condition have the greatest impact on function, but that would mean that Model 1's being the oldest would on average have the greatest chance of not working, i.e. providing the dreaded CD Read Error.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26 2013 7:10pm
by wshiraef
Here are a few errors I have encountered so far in Scenario 3. I attached 3 images with descriptions.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Mon Dec 09 2013 11:13pm
by myersxxx
Hello,

I have played v12 (or V13) a year ago and I do not know if this wrong text at Defenda Fortress was already recognised (the face icon should be from the leader of my army and not from Defenda), here's a picture I shot a year ago: see attachment below

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 28 2013 6:27pm
by dramateyez
Thanks to all those who contributed in translating scenario 2 and 3. I was very pleased to be able to play these games after all these years.

I do have a glitch it seems with scenario 3. After battle 4 with Goriate and the Walcuray, theres a little talking scene where Steel is being mean to Gesby and then it goes to a chapter end black scene reviewing the events. After the 3rd line of text pops up and you click to move forward, the screen just stays black. I've gone back and tried it a few times and always the same thing.

Would sincerely appreciate any advice or suggestions on how to rectify this problem or get around it.

thanks

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10 2014 9:31pm
by FUBAR
Hello. I first want to say thanks for the excellent translations. Shining Force 3 was one of the reasons that I bothered getting a Saturn and modding it. Without this project, me and many other people would not be able to enjoy the trilogy.

I am currently playing the third scenario with the V15 patch on my modded Sega Saturn and have encountered a game crashing bug. When Rollie enters the battle animation with a special attack, Rollie's model is missing polygons and the game freezes. Since I couldn't find any posts describing the same problem, has anyone been getting this problem on the V15 patch?

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04 2014 6:24am
by ericm
Not really willing to read through the previous posts here, so here's my (so far) encountered errors in V15 of sc.3:
In Foothill, when I searched a cabinet, got "thereALLYS..." and some other text. Looks like it should have read "there lies.." or something.
When I talk to Cyclops, (at least in Foothill) the two responses are reversed; if I click no to his question, he gives me the explanation on dragons.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06 2014 10:12am
by Faisal
Its actually funny I never encountered any problem playing either of the 3 chapters.I guess I was lucky :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06 2014 1:25pm
by legalize freedom
ericm wrote:Not really willing to read through the previous posts here, so here's my (so far) encountered errors in V15 of sc.3:
In Foothill, when I searched a cabinet, got "thereALLYS..." and some other text. Looks like it should have read "there lies.." or something.
When I talk to Cyclops, (at least in Foothill) the two responses are reversed; if I click no to his question, he gives me the explanation on dragons.



Found it. Should be the middle aged man playing hide and seek message. It was a bad apostrophe.



This is what you should get for the HQ Cyclops question. I believe Yes gets you the one line and No gets you three lines, correct?

~4-2~ ~Question~ Cyclops:
Do you know how to recruit dragons for battle?

~4-3~ ~Yes~ Cyclops:
The dragons I captured in battle remain on standby in this room. However, I can't capture more than 8 dragons at a time.

~4-4~ ~No~ Cyclops:
In this room, the dragons I have captured are able to join the next battle provided there is room in the army. The rest will remain here on standby.

~4-5~ Cyclops:
If you speak to a dragon, it will move to the front of the line and become available to join the next battle.

~4-6~ Cyclops:
In battle, please be wary of their health. If a dragon becomes unable to fight, it will leave your army and will not return.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun Apr 13 2014 11:56am
by ericm
My mistake on the Cyclops thing; I thought he was asking "do you WANT to know how to get dragons".

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07 2015 7:50pm
by Hrith
I have finished my run of Scenario 3 on patch v.16. I understand you're not as interested in a list of errors for Sc3 as much as you are regarding Sc1 and Sc2, but I plan to replay the three games getting the other characters (Jade/Garosh, Edmund/Produn) soon enough.
On that topic, should I wait for v.17 to be released to give you feedback on it?

There are a lot of images. I have added the location where the screenshot was taken directly on the image as requested.

There are too many images to post them all individually, so here is a link to the album on the first image relevant to Scenario 3. There are exactly 65 screenshots, so the last one will be #73

http://imgur.com/a/Gnzo3#9

I hope this helps :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07 2015 8:33pm
by Swalchy
With regards to http://imgur.com/a/Gnzo3#10 - "is" is certainly the correct word compared to "was". This is in context of Julian, who is (present tense, third person, singular) seeking revenge against a Vandal (Galm in this case). He has yet to have revenge against Galm, so was (past tense, third person, singular) is the wrong word to use in this sentence.

But I really wouldn't worry about grammatical errors found in anything past Scenario 2 Chapter 1. As of this moment, the other chapters (and Scenario 3 in total) aren't part of the 'Beta' stages yet :)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08 2015 12:00pm
by legalize freedom
Thanks Swalchy, but given the circumstances, I'll be accepting Kefka's error report. He is a professional linguist for one, so I have a feeling his review will be valuable. Also, he took the time to document his findings as I have asked, so I'm certainly grateful for that. While 65 may sound like a lot, I don't think that's too bad for an entire unpolished scenario.


Kefka wrote:I have finished my run of Scenario 3 on patch v.16. I understand you're not as interested in a list of errors for Sc3 as much as you are regarding Sc1 and Sc2, but I plan to replay the three games getting the other characters (Jade/Garosh, Edmund/Produn) soon enough.
On that topic, should I wait for v.17 to be released to give you feedback on it?

There are a lot of images. I have added the location where the screenshot was taken directly on the image as requested.

There are too many images to post them all individually, so here is a link to the album on the first image relevant to Scenario 3. There are exactly 65 screenshots, so the last one will be #73

http://imgur.com/a/Gnzo3#9

I hope this helps :)


Thank you for taking the time to document all your findings. Now if I can just figure out how to download them. The site appears to allow it, but asks for an email and never sends one. Maybe there is a waiting period...

I probably won't get to these Sc3 errors this cycle since I'm trying to get as much polished in Sc2 as possible for V17. That doesn't diminish your effort though. These will be incorporated in due time and you have my thanks. I would certainly be interested in anything (new) you find in your next playthough as well. It is a big help to have such a qualified set of eyes giving feedback.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09 2015 12:43am
by Hrith
Swalchy wrote:With regards to http://imgur.com/a/Gnzo3#10 - "is" is certainly the correct word compared to "was". This is in context of Julian, who is (present tense, third person, singular) seeking revenge against a Vandal (Galm in this case). He has yet to have revenge against Galm, so was (past tense, third person, singular) is the wrong word to use in this sentence.
Nope.

I have heard he is seeking revenge = correct.
I have heard he was seeking revenge = correct.
I heard he was seeking revenge = correct.
I heard he is seeking revenge = incorrect.

Time agreement when using the past/preterit; you can never have past and present tenses in the same clause. Very common mistake in the US, I've noticed, but a mistake nonetheless.

'I heard he was seeking revenge' still refers to events that have not passed yet.

legalize freedom wrote:While 65 may sound like a lot, I don't think that's too bad for an entire unpolished scenario.
Don't worry, there's a lot of nit-picking, as promised, and even a few personal comments.

This link should work... https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2vqJ ... VJhR1dXRnM select the download option at the top. It's in 7z format, let me know if this is not good.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09 2015 11:59am
by legalize freedom
Now you're confusing me. Kefka=Hrith, correct?

Considering your level of scrutiny, I'm feeling really good about 65 comments. :)

Got them. Just glancing through and these are some really good comments. Some I thought were already taken care of in V16, so good to know. I will certainly want to pick at least some of these up for V17.

Thanks!

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09 2015 2:26pm
by Hrith
Yes, kind Stordarth accepted my name change request :) This is a very old account, after all.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06 2016 8:02pm
by Bulzome
I'm not sure if anyone has taken notice, but when a file is loaded that's saved in the "Hero's Test", the locations are mislabeled. They appear in a very odd order.

Here, I have posted a backup RAM file with saves on every floor.

The lines are located on Page 2

Line 44 reads "Ruins 1" (it's fine)
Line 45 reads "Ruins 2" (it's fine)
Line 46 reads "Ruins 3" (it needs to be "Ruins 4")
Line 47 reads "Ruins 4" (it needs to be "Ruins 6")
Line 48 reads "Ruins 5" (it needs to be "Ruins 8")
Line 49 reads "Ruins 6" (it needs to be "Ruins 9")
Line 50 reads "Ruins 7" (it needs to be "Ruins 10")
Line 51 reads "Ruins 8" (it needs to be "Ruins 3")
Line 52 reads "Ruins 9" (it needs to be "Ruins 5")
Line 53 reads "Ruins 10" (it needs to be "Ruins 7")

I have no idea why the game pulls the locations in such an odd order, but I thought everyone should know.
Also, I know that these lines are often cleared to save space. But at the very least, they should probably be changed for DREAM.

EDIT: I had a total brain fart. These lines will need to be changed on every file that has access to the save function. (The files that have room, that is.)

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07 2016 12:14pm
by legalize freedom
Thanks for the heads-up! I'll get it fixed up.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30 2016 9:53pm
by Bulzome
I did find a few minor errors with V18.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31 2016 1:02pm
by legalize freedom
Bulzome wrote:I did find a few minor errors with V18.


Thanks for taking the time to document these. I'll get them fixed up.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01 2016 1:26am
by Bulzome
Not a problem. :thumbsup:

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03 2017 2:06pm
by Synthesis
Minor grammatical error made here.

Image

This is a grammatical error in the form of a tautology. Instead of saying "from a mighty being to an ordinary being" It should say "from a mighty to an ordinary being" or "from a mighty being to an ordinary boy".

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06 2017 1:15pm
by legalize freedom
This line (and many, many others) is likely to be completely re-worded once the final review takes place.

Re: Scenario 3 Error Report Topic

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24 2017 7:17pm
by bleu7384
Hello

I've posted my problem in a separate topic.

I couldn't delete this

please ignore