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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby leyanna » Sun Apr 17 2016 2:28pm

Is patch 17 solving the Flsgard castle crash in Ch.4 ?
I have the same problem as mentioned before, playing on the real Saturn.
The fix earlier posted seems to be gone.

Help please :damnit:
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby legalize freedom » Sun Apr 17 2016 8:27pm

The fix posted earlier was indeed incorporated into V17. If you aren't using V17, you should definitely get the latest.
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby Evil Gately » Sat Jan 13 2018 12:58pm

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I hope this is the sort of thing you're after in this thread! Just playing through the v1.9 patch of scn 1 and spotted this typo! In the scene just after the Railhead Switchpoint/Refugee battle, Masquirin says schickens and chickens in the same speech bubble!
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby legalize freedom » Sat Jan 13 2018 2:37pm

Evil Gately wrote:Image

I hope this is the sort of thing you're after in this thread! Just playing through the v1.9 patch of scn 1 and spotted this typo! In the scene just after the Railhead Switchpoint/Refugee battle, Masquirin says schickens and chickens in the same speech bubble!


Yes, this is so controversial there are whole threads about it. :)

It is intentional (and in the original release, btw). She is excited and rushing her words. She is correcting herself in the line.
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby Evil Gately » Sat Jan 13 2018 8:53pm

Cool, no worries! :) You know, I've played scn. 1 through so many times, and I've never even noticed it! :D
Darksol @ Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:02 am wrote:You have fallen from the path of righteous drunken adventures and now find yourself seeking cheap thrills at the expense of your pride. Remember, for a drunken adventure to be glorious, it cannot be scripted. And it certainly cannot be sewn.

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Darksol @ Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:02 am wrote:You have fallen from the path of righteous drunken adventures and now find yourself seeking cheap thrills at the expense of your pride. Remember, for a drunken adventure to be glorious, it cannot be scripted. And it certainly cannot be sewn.

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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby Chinagonuk » Mon Apr 30 2018 9:42pm

I’ve just cleared the catacombs battle using version 19 and the game is crashing afterwards. It’s during the dialogue when the music changes to the sad music.
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby legalize freedom » Tue May 01 2018 12:22pm

If this is in SSF, it's likely more related to the emulator. There are several "crash points" in the game that if your computer is underpowered and/or the settings are set too high, it will crash. Try going to EZ Settings and setting it to the Fast/high compatibility option and try the sequence again. Once passed it, return the settings to normal.

If this is on real hardware, I will investigate further.
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby Chinagonuk » Tue May 01 2018 3:57pm

Thanks for the reply LF. You were right, I was able to get the crash point by reducing some settings on SSF.
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby Arc_the_Lad » Thu May 03 2018 8:16am

Yeah I finally got a crash after battle 27, during the dialogue right when the music change from the creepy music to the sad music, the music is still playing when this happens, and I can still load states and rewind the emulator.

I'm not using SSF though, I'm using Mednafen through the launchbox app. I'll post a screen of when it happens and my mednafen settings.

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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby legalize freedom » Thu May 03 2018 12:23pm

I don't know anything about other emulators, but I would still assume it is a product of emulation. I would also assume you could lower the settings and get past it, but I have no experience with this working in other emulators.

Save states are to be avoided in SSF (again not sure how stable they are in other emulators). The majority of people I've seen experience crashes are actively using save states. It appears that contributes to the crashing. There is even evidence that if you load a save state and make that your save moving forward, that you will have crash problems for as long as you use that save line. In other words, you never want to use the save state function for normal play (as opposed to testing).
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Re: Scenario 1 Error Report Topic

Postby Chinagonuk » Thu May 03 2018 1:29pm

Arc_the_Lad wrote:Yeah I finally got a crash after battle 27, during the dialogue right when the music change from the creepy music to the sad music, the music is still playing when this happens, and I can still load states and rewind the emulator.

I'm not using SSF though, I'm using Mednafen through the launchbox app. I'll post a screen of when it happens and my mednafen settings.


Yeah, this is the very spot I had my crash. I'm not familiar with Mednafen but hopefully you can still get past it by changing some settings.

In SSF I changed my EZ settings from the highest to lowest settings. This meant that the following settings were changed:

Dot Clock from 4.0 to 2.0
1Block Clock from 32 to 110
SlaveSH2 Speed from 100 to 80
Recompile Block Inst from 40 to 50
Check Cycle Patter from ON to OFF
VDP Ram Revision Acces from ON to OFF
Memory Acees Wait from ON to OFF

Hope this helps you get past.
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