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Postby Ghaladen » Wed Sep 24 2008 8:46pm

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before or not, but I'm wondering if there should be an actual site dedicated to this project, and not just a forum section. Nothing personal to Moogie's site, it just seems the project would get more attention if it had it's own site. If this is of any interest of the creators, I'm a web developer and I'd be happy to lend my skills.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby legalize freedom » Thu Sep 25 2008 1:10am

Personally, I would like to see the project have a permanent page or two here at SFC. Specifically a place where the patch and info about its use and the project in general could be located and readily available. A trusted url where we could clearly state is the official page and all others are not.

A statement will be provided in the game itself (probably on the Now Loading... screen) with a url to get the latest version, no pirating message, etc. So a dedicated url would be ideal.

I would not, however, consider this page being outside of SFC unless it was requested as such by Moogie. This is the proper home for the project and I will always be loyal to SFC. I may be at liberty to lobby Moogie to set aside a url and provide templates for the pages. I've been meaning to anyway...

I doubt any professional web developing will be needed, but your offer is appreciated. Probably just text, download links and a couple of pics. We'll see what happens. Thanks for bringing it up.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Moogie » Thu Sep 25 2008 8:19am

Being that I am also a web developer by career, I would be more than happy to create and host a site for the project. I don't think anyone ever asked before!

This will be even easier when I have finished developing the site CMS as it can then be used for the translation site too. Until then I can set something up though, with some degree of self-updateability for you :) Would be nice to make a few design ideas for the site as a bit of a break from my coding at the moment!

Am out today but will have a tinker as soon as I can :D

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Re: A website for the project

Postby legalize freedom » Thu Sep 25 2008 12:33pm

I don't know if it needs a subdomain. I guess if we plan to have mulitple pages (Progress update, download/instructions, maybe back story and credits) then we would need one...? Please forgive my lack of web development knowledge...

If it can be given an alias ie "www.SF3Translation.com" then the actual address wouldn't matter as much. I would be willing to donate the url purchase amount if we needed to buy the name. Obviously the shorter and easier to remember, the better, but I would also like to see SFC in the address, so that is up to your professional opinion.

Thanks for putting this together!
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Moogie » Tue Sep 30 2008 1:03pm

Little bit busy this week with work & other duties but will get on to this just as soon as I can :) It certainly ain't forgotten!

Initially I can set up the site on an SFC subdomain & then we can get a proper domain to point to it - that way either address can be used.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Moogie » Sat Oct 04 2008 8:59pm

Had a bit of time to tinker with a site design today, although I'm on my laptop and don't have a decent copy of the SFIII logo to hand (and no point wasting time making one when I have it at home)...

The main contents area on the left hand side has just got some basc fake text in to fill it out. Haven't started to play with the layout for that yet.

Also the colours may be a bit off as my laptop screen hasn't been calibrated to match my usual monitor settings! Can fix this at home too.

Quite pleased with it so far, but welcome constructive crits... or compliments ;)
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Re: A website for the project

Postby legalize freedom » Sun Oct 05 2008 1:58am

Wow! That looks great!
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Cullsoft » Mon Oct 06 2008 7:48pm

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OoooooooOooooooooOoooooooOoooooooh nice.

My immediate thought is that it's fairly different brand/styling to the SFC site; I was thinking it might be something more "in brand" if it was going to be part of SFC. It does look nice, though... very nice.

Only immediate suggestions I might make are...
- The links and titles look like they're likely to be images rather than text. From an SEO point of view, these might be best suited as being text (hey, TONS of people are probably going to be hunting for this on Google when word gets out... and isn't it out already?). At work we've had a couple of project lately where the designers wanted to have content and titles in a fancy font, but we convinced them to go with something that could look good and be in a user-friendly text font to bump up their SEO, and they liked the idea.
- The colour scheme feels like it's nearly there... though at present feels like it's in the "different coloured boxes to tell them apart in the layout and coding stage". Not sure what to do about this off the top of my head, and I'm hesitant about suggesting anything if it's still WIP and you're still sorting out the colours.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Swalchy » Mon Oct 06 2008 7:53pm

Culley O'Fursdom @ Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:48 pm) wrote: My immediate thought is that it's fairly different brand/styling to the SFC site; I was thinking it might be something more "in brand" if it was going to be part of SFC. It does look nice, though... very nice.

It must be remembered that Moogie is currently in the middle of a re-design, IIRC.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Cullsoft » Mon Oct 06 2008 8:12pm

Swalchy @ Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:53 pm) wrote: It must be remembered that Moogie is currently in the middle of a re-design, IIRC.

Good point - with all the stuff about SFC's new CMS and getting content updates made, I'd forgotten/missed that the site was getting a rebranding too... >.>
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Moogie » Tue Oct 07 2008 9:54am

Short on time at the moment. My nan passed away on Sunday and we are very busy with funeral arrangements etc :(

Thanks for the input Culley :) As this is just an initial design proof it's only graphical and the links would of course be textual wherever possible (don't forget I was a web designer/developer by career from the age of 16, learned a bit about search engines in the last 11 years!). Thankfully SFC has a great ranking (it helps if the content really is relevant and in abundance! ... I always hate having to try to get good rankings for a site that doesn't really deserve them) and any subsites of it should feed off that to a degree.

Having seen the design on my design monitor now (as I said, laptop hasn't been calibrated to match) they aren't quite as I saw them when I designed it and I will be fixing this as soon as I can.

Must go for now, have to have a clean around the house for mum before the funeral director arrives in half an hour.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Cullsoft » Tue Oct 07 2008 11:35am

Shoot, sorry to hear that. :( My condolences and best wishes for the funeral.

Don't worry, you know I'm fully aware about your might in the web game - just trying to lend a hand by making a few suggestions and taking the opportunity to flex my young and vibrant web admin/maintenance muscles. ;) (Heck, I'm still riding a high after being a key point of a major global web launch last week!)
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Moogie » Thu Oct 09 2008 6:27pm

Just found a few spare minutes to modify the colours a bit so they look right on my main screen. I do hate the way different monitor colour settings can affect the look of a site, but hopefully this looks a bit more balanced as this monitor has been calibrated properly!

Probably not enough time to play with the main content area right now but hopefully next week once the funeral's done, things won't be so hectic.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby The_Great_Waffle » Thu Oct 09 2008 11:34pm

Wow that's pretty neat. Dang me and my lack of computer skills! >shakes fist<
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Rick » Fri Oct 10 2008 12:43pm

I like it Moogs. Everything is clear and in place. Nothing clashes, and its obvious where each section will start and finish.

I'm not so certain about the bright yellow circle to trigger the download however... the circle just looks kind of... amateur in comparison.

Maybe if the brightness of the yellow was toned down, or it was made a few shades lighter? It could also be the position of the button... I'm not sure

I do understand the point of it being so stuck out, so that people instantly know where to download the patch, but the colour and the style looks like someone just grabbed the circle and buttons in MS Paint. I'm trying not to be horrible, it just doesn't appear as professional as the rest of the site
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Ritualofthetrout » Tue Oct 14 2008 9:18pm

legalize freedom @ Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:10 am) wrote: Personally, I would like to see the project have a permanent page or two here at SFC. Specifically a place where the patch and info about its use and the project in general could be located and readily available. A trusted url where we could clearly state is the official page and all others are not.

A statement will be provided in the game itself (probably on the Now Loading... screen) with a url to get the latest version, no pirating message, etc. So a dedicated url would be ideal.

I would not, however, consider this page being outside of SFC unless it was requested as such by Moogie. This is the proper home for the project and I will always be loyal to SFC. I may be at liberty to lobby Moogie to set aside a url and provide templates for the pages. I've been meaning to anyway...

I doubt any professional web developing will be needed, but your offer is appreciated. Probably just text, download links and a couple of pics. We'll see what happens. Thanks for bringing it up.

Sounds like a good idea. I just updated my site to refer any and all updates to this forum to help avoid any confusion from outdated information. (Which if I contributed to any problems I apologize as I hadn't updated the section of the translation project in a year at least :( ) It will be great to have a site to send people to with all the most accurate and up to date information.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby The_Dark_Lord » Wed Dec 17 2008 10:57pm

Sooo........Any update?
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Re: A website for the project

Postby Moogie » Fri Jan 16 2009 1:32pm

Having forgotten about this over Christmas I have prepped the subdomain for the site and prepped the site skeleton. Just need time to build a mini CMS for it so it can be easily updated.
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Re: A website for the project

Postby DomingoRules! » Sat Feb 21 2009 7:58am

It would indeed be convenient if the project had it's own page. Would make checking up on updates for it much easier than having to scroll through forum posts. I'm so excited about this translation, even though I have little idea how I'll be able to play the games once they're complete :( But, this isn't exactly the place to be getting into all of that, I just got a little sidtracked is all :p
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Re: A website for the project

Postby legalize freedom » Mon Feb 22 2010 1:25pm

I believe everyone is happy with the translation site now. Comments are working and it has been streamlined a bit. You can access it at any time in my sig or in the Progress Report thread (among others).

The credits are a work in progress... not just because we're not finished, but also because I still need to research everyone to credit. Additionally, anyone who is listed in the credits can request a different name to be credited (real name, member name, or both).

Thanks again to Moogie for making this happen. Now I just need to get the patch ready to version and we'll be in business.
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