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Max?

Postby MaxofGaurdiana » Wed May 24 2006 8:06pm

:confused: Ok I rented this game and was about to stop playing it when Max Mentioned Cain ... I have three questions. This Is the Max From Shining Force Right? How did Max And Cain get from where they are in Shining Force Neo to Shining Force? When was it astablished that Cain and Max were brothers? I'm so confused here. Hopefully somebody can help me out I'm almost never near a computer so please respond quickly. :...:
 
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Max?

Postby Aldur » Wed May 24 2006 8:19pm

It has nothing to do with the original games. The end.
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Re: Max?

Postby Guthwulf » Tue Sep 12 2006 2:08pm

Well, of course they are the same Max, Cane and Adam.
Max defeated DD and after was cryogenized with Cane, in the same temple you find Adam in shining force. The robot was the guardian on this temple; he waited long, for 10000 years, when DD returned and the hero brothers were awaikened too.
It is all explained in "shining force - the resurrection of the dark dragon" for game boy advanced. It isn't so well explained in the original game but you can remember that Max had forgotten his past in the begining of the game. And in the end of the game the force thinks that Max is dead but appears alive again with Adam, perhaps 10000 years later.
The three sages of SFneo say that the chosen one would be prepared to figth DD when required.
Also say that Maria is very similar to the god that appears in SF in the end of part one behind the castle of Alterone.
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Re: Max?

Postby VoxPVoxD » Tue Sep 12 2006 5:29pm

In many ways SF Neo is the spiritual sequel to - as well as better than - SF1
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Re: Max?

Postby Aldur » Tue Sep 12 2006 5:39pm

Guthwulf @ Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:08 pm) wrote: Well, of course they are the same Max, Cane and Adam.
Max defeated DD and after was cryogenized with Cane, in the same temple you find Adam in shining force. The robot was the guardian on this temple; he waited long, for 10000 years, when DD returned and the hero brothers were awaikened too.
It is all explained in "shining force - the resurrection of the dark dragon" for game boy advanced. It isn't so well explained in the original game but you can remember that Max had forgotten his past in the begining of the game. And in the end of the game the force thinks that Max is dead but appears alive again with Adam, perhaps 10000 years later.
The three sages of SFneo say that the chosen one would be prepared to figth DD when required.
Also say that Maria is very similar to the god that appears in SF in the end of part one behind the castle of Alterone.

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Re: Max?

Postby Guthwulf » Fri Oct 27 2006 4:27pm

Well, I finished the game (not the tomb of the king) and now I'm more sure than before about what I said, my friend Aldur.

There were two things that didn't suit for me, before finishing the game. One is that no one even mentioned Dark Dragon. Finaly Rebeca does before the last battle. But Vandolf doesn't manage to call it because Max stops him and doesn't appear in the game. We are talking about the same shining universe.
The second was that Cane was dead by Vandolf and this could not be posible because he appears in SF. Well, he didn't die; he appears in the very last secuence. He still has some things to do before dieing in Dragonia.

Talking about dragons; Dryu is the same type of dragon than Bleu, isn't it. Both are descendants of the Sacred Dragon that defeated the Dark Dragon. I think that Bleu is surely descendant of Dryu.

So, for me, Max, Cane and Adam are the same ones. Dark Dragon is the same one. Adam has the answers in SF the resurrections of the DD. Also in SF but less, I think. I don't remenber what he sais in the original game.

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Re: Max?

Postby Xiados » Sun Oct 29 2006 2:19pm

Guthwulf @ Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:27 am) wrote: Well, I finished the game (not the tomb of the king) and now I'm more sure than before about what I said, my friend Aldur.

There were two things that didn't suit for me, before finishing the game. One is that no one even mentioned Dark Dragon. Finaly Rebeca does before the last battle. But Vandolf doesn't manage to call it because Max stops him and doesn't appear in the game. We are talking about the same shining universe.
The second was that Cane was dead by Vandolf and this could not be posible because he appears in SF. Well, he didn't die; he appears in the very last secuence. He still has some things to do before dieing in Dragonia.

Talking about dragons; Dryu is the same type of dragon than Bleu, isn't it. Both are descendants of the Sacred Dragon that defeated the Dark Dragon. I think that Bleu is surely descendant of Dryu.

So, for me, Max, Cane and Adam are the same ones. Dark Dragon is the same one. Adam has the answers in SF the resurrections of the DD. Also in SF but less, I think. I don't remenber what he sais in the original game.

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Re: Max?

Postby Guthwulf » Wed Nov 08 2006 7:28pm

What lies??

This is only a fiction story/game!!!!
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Re: Max?

Postby Rick » Wed Nov 08 2006 7:34pm

they're just saying that people are using the Max name in the games to actually realate it to the SF universe...

in the original there isnt any mention of the memory loss thing is there?
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Re: Max?

Postby Guthwulf » Wed Nov 08 2006 8:04pm

Yes, there is. It is also in the original game.

And WHO is using the nameS? And the title? It is sega because it's their game.

And it is the same universe! Didn't you see the centaurs??? But is it a coincidence that 4 characters including DD have the same name? I don't think so. This didn't happen since SFII and SFFC.
And, as i said, they suit in the storyline of SF. They could have had other name and it would be another story but they don't.

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Re: Max?

Postby Noma » Sat Nov 11 2006 9:33pm

Guthwulf @ Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:04 pm) wrote: Yes, there is. It is also in the original game.

I'm about to cry.

Resurrection of Dark Dragon and Legacy of Great Intention are not the same game. They may have the same overall plot and characters (for the most part), but LoGI is the first, so that's what everyone goes by.
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Re: Max?

Postby Shining Bowie » Mon Dec 18 2006 2:37am

The priest SO mentions Max's memory loss at the beginning of LOGI. Right there in Gaurdia.

And his washing-up-on-a-beach-edness.
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Re: Max?

Postby Eric » Tue Dec 19 2006 8:22am

maybe those eyebrows froze off eh?

anyways, you know its not the same theme because Chikita is labeled kyantol when really it looks like a reject from some kids cartoon.
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Re: Max?

Postby drewbster » Sun Jan 14 2007 2:02am

Neo just felt like a remake to me.

Shining Bowie @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:37 am) wrote: The priest SO mentions Max's memory loss at the beginning of LOGI. Right there in Gaurdia.

And his washing-up-on-a-beach-edness.

I don't remember ever seeing that. Is this the priest in the Guardiana chapel, or the old man over by the Gate?
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Re: Max?

Postby Balbaroy » Mon Jan 29 2007 8:30pm

I just played through the entire first chapter and I talked with the priest at every junction allowed, and he never once mentioned anything about memory loss or beaches.
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Re: Max?

Postby zagato05 » Tue Feb 27 2007 7:29am

I'm pretty sure that the priest says it if you talk to him before you see the king. So about 15 secs into the game, right after Varios leaves.
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Re: Max?

Postby Alones » Tue Jan 29 2008 6:01pm

The memory loss thing is ROTDD exclusive.

[rotdd]
Priest:
Ah, the good Max!
I had an odd dream last night.
Can you guess what it was?
~ If NO ~
Priest:
Well, I suppose...
Even the great Lord Max can't read people's minds!
I had a dream about the first time I met you.
Lowe and apprentice here, found you lying on the beach.
That was a year ago now...
You'd lost your memory.
I think it was fate that you came here..

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Hello, Max! I've been having the worst nightmares. Have you had any?
~ If NO ~
Priest:
Well, then, let me tell you about mine. I saw our land in ruins.
Evil creatures roamed our halls! It seemed so real!

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Re: Max?

Postby Balbaroy » Tue Jan 29 2008 11:43pm

Almost a year after the fact, lol. Way to revive the dead.

Still RotDD and LOGI are two different games, and LOGI is the original so that is the one we go by. This was already said.
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Re: Max?

Postby Alones » Wed Jan 30 2008 2:40am

*Read 27 jan, but it was 27 feb.. :damnit: *

Btw, Why do not count Force RotDD as canon? I think it only adds info to the original plot...
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Re: Max?

Postby drewbster » Wed Feb 13 2008 8:01am

Alones @ Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:01 pm) wrote: The memory loss thing is ROTDD exclusive.

[logi]
Priest:
Hello, Max! I've been having the worst nightmares. Have you had any?
~ If NO ~
Priest:
Well, then, let me tell you about mine. I saw our land in ruins.
Evil creatures roamed our halls! It seemed so real!

Thank you for clearing that up. I've played LoGI countless times, but never once saw anything other than "evil creatures roamed our halls."

I think you raise a good question too. I'm not familiar with RotDD, but I thought SF fans accepted that Max and Cain were brothers.
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