Shining Force Gaiden Final Conflict: What happened at the end of FC and what

[Demonic Weasel]

Domingo43 cited the quote, "Kane dies" as definitive proof that he's dead by the time FC roles around. I pointed out that there were some implied deaths that turned out to not be true deaths and he tried to detract from that point. So I detracted from his detraction.

[Martin III]

I still don't see why you can't take the explicit statement "Kane dies" as definitive proof that Kane is dead.

Another thing I've just noticed. Max was talking to Ian when he said this, so if he was referring to Kane, wouldn't it make a lot more sense for him to say "your father's place" rather than "my brother's place"? I mean, unless Max is completely narcissistic...

[Demonic Weasel]

I'm not sure about this, but wasn't that same quote used for Darksol? Because he definitely didn't die at the end of SF1. I'm willing to concede that it's an indication, but no more than that.

[Martin III]

I'm not sure about the quote with regard to Darksol either, but Darksol definitely did die at the end of Shining Force I. It's simply that, being a devil king, he can be resurrected.

[Demonic Weasel]

I always took that to mean that his copreal body was destroyed but that he was in no way killed. The theories come to the same point however.

[Alpha]

There's always the thought that if any Shining Force member can be raised by the powers of light, any warrior of evil could be raised by the powers of darkness.

Just an idea (not sure if I think it valid or not right now).

[Martin III]

I always took that to mean that his copreal body was destroyed but that he was in no way killed.

What do you think dying is, beyond having your corporeal body destroyed? Are you telling me that if I were to destroy your corporeal body right now, you could still be alive!?

[Demonic Weasel]

Yes, but Darksol is a Devil King. The point being that he doesn't actually 'die' in the sense that the word is generally used.

[Alpha]

Which is sort of what I was just trying to point out.

[Demonic Weasel]

You were broadening the point to encompass all that serve darkness though. I was specifically speculating as to the powers of a Devil King. Worthy idea though.

[Lucifer]

Since recent studies show that RotDD (extras excluded) is more canonical than we originally thought, I propose that Max could've been referring to Metapha or some similar "realm of the Ancients" when he said, "my brothers place." Although the Castle of the Ancients sank to the depths of the sea, it is never stated nor implied that the rest of the Ancients ruined civilization was destroyed along with it.

The Aforementioned Studies: http://forums.shiningforcecentral.com/v ... =3&t=16147

[Wulfunruh]

Wrench. On no grounds at all... Oddeye is the third brother.