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The All Stars Mod [Revived!]

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The All Stars Mod [Revived!]

Postby Noma » Fri Apr 22 2011 2:36pm

Welcome to the All Stars mod topic!


Hi everyone! For the sake of neatness, as well as saving time for everyone who doesn't want to read a lengthy post of information that they may not find relevant, this will be broken into sections.


Description
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Character Roster
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The following is a list of characters that will most likely be choices in a customized experience, but are still subject to change based on further discussion.


Alternate Character Roster
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Video and Screenshots
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The following is for those of you who care about why this project was started so long ago and hasn't even had beta testing done yet, why I was away for some long, and why I stopped working on this in first place. I recommend the TLDR for those that don't want a minute telling of exactly the kind of work involved in something like this and an already kind weird man's slow decent into madness and murder.


History; Warning: Wall of Text!
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TLDR History
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Feel free to post thoughts and questions here, but if for some reason you would like to discuss something one to one, PM me. I have email notifications turned on for PMs as well as for any posts in this topic, something I hadn't done initially and the reason why, in the past, I didn't always respond to PMs and topic responses promptly. I'm still working two jobs so don't expect an instant response, but I will be checking my email at least once a day, if not more.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby MXC » Fri Apr 22 2011 3:40pm

For balance purposes and because they kick ass, add in Claude and Shriek from SFCD. They're birdmen and absolutely own.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby Drakonis » Fri Apr 22 2011 5:17pm

I also had this Idea but never really decided to realize it, its a pretty cool concept.
One could also change up some battles to include allstar bosses (I'd really love to bash some Kane, Ramladu, Collossus or Elliot with that force).
I'd probably be even so nerdy and include Kane and Elliot as playable characters. 'Cause I'm lame like that.

For knights, I'd probably go with Eric (SFII), Mae (SFI) and/or Earnest (SFI), simply because those are my favorite knights.
For Warriors, I'd either take Lemon, Jaha, Luke and/or Gort.
Casters I'd choose between Anri, Alef and Mayfair.
For healers I'd probably put Sarah (SFII), Sarah (SFG/CD) or - if you want to go that route, Narsha (RotDD) (IMO the only good new character in the remake).
And as MXC said, both Claude and Shriek where pretty nice.
You MIGHT add another Archer/BRGN/Ranger to the list, where I would prefer to see Elric (Cause he looks just damn nice as a SNIP) or Rhode.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby DevilKnightHawk » Fri Apr 22 2011 5:45pm

Knights, where are Pelle & Earnest?
Musashi is a beast.
Gong is also cool.
Lemon/Gyan/Gort should be included.
Tao/Anri definetly in.
I'm not done but i don't want to write more :D
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Re: All-Stars

Postby Noma » Fri Apr 22 2011 6:11pm

DevilKnightHawk wrote:Knights, where are Pelle & Earnest?
Musashi is a beast.
Gong is also cool.
Lemon/Gyan/Gort should be included.
Tao/Anri definetly in.
I'm not done but i don't want to write more :D


The problem with a lot of these is that they're SF1/2 chars, and those games are already fairly represented. I'd probably only go as far as including 2 more characters from each of those games, but no more.

As far as Pelle and Earnest go, Earnest is my favorite knight of SF1. That said, I'm honest enough to admit he's not particularly amazing. If I were to add another SF1 knight, it would most definitely be Mae.

Gort is likely to be included, as he is the Warr/Gldt I prefer in SF1, but Gyan on the other hand...Lemon is also a character I've considered, so I may include him.

Anri will most likely get a caster's slot, it was mostly between her and Tao, but I just can't include both without losing another caster from another game, and things are already leaning very steeply towards SF1 and 2 in terms of characters.

@ MXC I will consider Claude and Shriek also. I only have 1 BDMN listed and that's Kiddo, so at least 1 more is welcome.

@ Drakonis Trust me, I really do want to add Elliot. You have no idea, but the only reason I'm getting away with Oddeye is because he was a playable character (albeit for only what? a battle?) and I just don't feel it would be right to include him. That said, once I've completed this Mod, I will likely do an Enemy All-Stars Mod.

Also, the battle setups in this mod will be 100% new. There will likely be no enemies that existed from SF2 (maybe a handful) still included once the mod is finished, besides bosses of course. Though this is mostly for fun, it will also be a real challenge, regardless of the team you choose. I won't give anything away, but you've mostly got the idea of how I'll go about things in terms of boss characters from other games in many battles.

Narsha will probably not be included. As much as I agree that she's the only new character I liked in RotDD, I can't really see adding her.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby brady3superbwl » Fri Apr 22 2011 7:51pm

DevilKnightHawk wrote:Knights, where are Pelle & Earnest?
Musashi is a beast.
Gong is also cool.
Lemon/Gyan/Gort should be included.
Tao/Anri definetly in.
I'm not done but i don't want to write more :D

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Re: All-Stars

Postby Noma » Fri Apr 22 2011 10:44pm

May add Musashi, but is he really a lot better than the Samurai that appear in SFCD? Would like some feedback on that please.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby MXC » Fri Apr 22 2011 10:56pm

I thought he was better in 1 (though that might be because of AI issues).

Despite being the same guy ;)
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Re: All-Stars

Postby ehow22 » Fri Apr 22 2011 10:58pm

If you want another knight, might I suggest Randolf or Kashing?

Cray(monk) from Book 1 is awesome...so is Yeesha(also book 1)

I really like Eric from Final Conflict, but that's just personal bias

As MXC said, The SFCD birdmen are awesome..

There are plenty of casters....May(Book 2), Minto(FC)

You're also forgetting about the best healer in the series...CYNTHIA :jk:

Drak: Wasn't Mayfair a healer?
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Re: All-Stars

Postby MXC » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:01pm

Myafair is a healer.

And Randolf CD owns.

Also Tyrin is better than Kazin.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby ehow22 » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:12pm

One of Natasha's spells is egress iirc......there's already 5 HEROs with that :\
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Re: All-Stars

Postby MXC » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:13pm

I would also definitely not include May SF2
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Re: All-Stars

Postby ehow22 » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:22pm

I'd rather have Higins(SFCD) than Slade and Stock over May
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Re: All-Stars

Postby Drakonis » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:34pm

Oh I was wrong on the character. I didn't mean Mayfair, I meant the catwoman caster. too lazy to look it up nao ;)

ANd I would keep slade as he's kinda unique in story-relatedness and looks.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby DanTheMan » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:42pm

Where's the Robots?? Put Zynk in there, he kicks ass, and yes I say being completely biased!
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Re: All-Stars

Postby Noma » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:45pm

ehow22 wrote:I'd rather have Higins(SFCD) than Slade and Stock over May


Okay, so Higins is superior to Slade or is it just that he's more useful in CD than Slade is in SF2? I rather liked Slade, but I could take him out and just leave Ruburan. One Ninja is really enough. Not too sure though, may just keep him.

I never used Stock much so I'm not aware of how good he is. So here's the new permanent list, excluding the heroes:

Casters:
Natasha (G2) or May (G1)
Kazin or Tyrin (SF2)
Anri (SF1)

Healers:
Khris (SF1)
Karna (SF2)
Cray (G1)
Mayfair (G1, G2)

Knights:
Arthur (SF1)
Mae (SF1) or Randolf (G1, G2)

Beastmen:
Zylo (SF1)
Gerhalt (SF2)

Warriors:
Gort (SF1)
Jaha or Lemon (SF2)

Fliers:
Peter (SF2)
Shriek or Claude (G1)
Kiddo (FC)
Bleu (SF1)

Thieves/Ninjas:
Slade (SF2) or Higins (G2)
Ruburan (FC)

Archers:
Stock (G1)
Sonnette (FC)

Other:
Domingo (SF1, G1)
Oddeye (FC)
Guntz (SF1)
Musashi (SF1)

Regarding Natasha; Egress will be deleted for another spell, not sure what yet though.

Based on this list, I have no more room, so if I make any other decisions, characters will have to be replaced rather than just added in. I feel like there may be 1 too many healers also.

No Robots, sorry.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby ehow22 » Fri Apr 22 2011 11:48pm

Ruburan's enough as far as ninjas go imo........Or Slade whichever, I just find Ruburan more useful because Slade starts out as garbage.

Cynthia was a joke
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Re: All-Stars

Postby Noma » Sat Apr 23 2011 12:04am

ehow22 wrote:Ruburan's enough as far as ninjas go imo........Or Slade whichever, I just find Ruburan more useful because Slade starts out as garbage.

Cynthia was a joke


Never used her much in FC myself, and I only ever played once so the joke was lost on me lol. Consider her excluded.
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Re: All-Stars

Postby ehow22 » Sat Apr 23 2011 12:07am

The joke is that she has an extremely small amount of mp :p
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Re: All-Stars

Postby Noma » Sat Apr 23 2011 12:11am

ehow22 wrote:The joke is that she has an extremely small amount of mp :p


Lol, I see. I've also heard she's difficult to level, but maxes Aura, which some people don't consider worth leveling her. I could be wrong but that's what I recall hearing about her.
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