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Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19 2017 2:10am
by Rune
I'm one of the people that liked the wii controls, although I know it is a standard complaint.

In particular, I thought it was the first 3d zelda with good (but not great) controls for aiming and I had no trouble with the shield bash. I think trouble with the shield bash is a very common issue. Some people have trouble with the exact sword slash they want (horizontal/vertical), but I found that to be largely irrelevant.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19 2017 9:52am
by Chaos Wizard
I have the Wii version myself, and a nifty t-shirt that is getting a little old and faded... :(

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19 2017 12:55pm
by MXC
I tried playing two different Zelda games and never could get into them.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20 2017 1:05am
by Rune
Well fox news just fired o'reilly. How about that?

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20 2017 5:59am
by Assassins
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20 2017 12:04pm
by Cyric
Inside Edition was never the same...

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20 2017 8:12pm
by MXC
At least we have Doc McStuffins to take all the ouchies away.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20 2017 9:50pm
by ZethaPonderer
zzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZ :sleep:

:shock: O'Reilly got Fired? O'RLY? :eyebrow:

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21 2017 12:27am
by Corsair
Rune wrote:Well fox news just fired o'reilly. How about that?


Well, I guess he can fall back on his dream of teaching ballet in the newly branded "Spin Zone" school of dance.

Re: Zelda
Link's awakening, i think will always be my favorite. The brisk pacing, relatively compact map with very little filler. I go through it once every few years - just long enough to forget where everything precisely is. I take my time; 15-16 hours or so over the course of a few weeks.

Kinda wish it were a tad more difficult but it's a breezy and satisfying experience.

2nd in line is Zelda II for totally different reasons.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21 2017 1:09am
by Assassins
Link's awakening was my first Zelda game. You know about the bomb arrow trick or stealing from the shop?

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21 2017 9:43am
by Chaos Wizard
Ocarina of Time is my favorite, and is one of my all time favorite games ever of any genre. Loved me some Link to the Past though.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21 2017 6:21pm
by ZethaPonderer
One thing I don't understand when debating anything Zelda related is people debating about it being an RPG (Role-Playing Game NOT a Rocket-Propelled Grenade)

I personally see it as an Adventure-Puzzle series tbh.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21 2017 8:37pm
by Chaos Wizard
I can seem some ambiguity, but to me personally I think that an RPG requires you to level up.

A third person hack n' slash where you accumulate items to do different things to me is more of an action game, otherwise franchises like God of War are ultimately also included by that definition as being RPG. (Love God of War BTW)

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21 2017 10:15pm
by Omega Entity
I'm with Phill on this one. It'd be action-RPG at best in my mind, but the criteria people use to determine if something is an RPG or not nowadays means that CoD could technically be considered one.

In other news, just got back from urgent care with a pinched nerve. Hopefully the valium and tramadol means I'll be able to sleep tonight.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22 2017 12:12pm
by Stordarth
That sucks. Hope you feel better soon.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22 2017 12:24pm
by Chaos Wizard
God damn. That does not sound fun at all.

I've got about two weeks left before my move back to Albuquerque, and aside from the obvious being happy about being reunited with my wife and kids indefinitely after 6 months of living alone just making money, I am also looking forward to jamming music, starting a new game of Shining in the Darkness, and checking out Endless Sky.

The latter is apparently basically a clone of Escape Velocity with some expansions. More aliens/races/governments kind of thing. I've been a fan of Escape Velocity for... Holy Shit.. 20 years... :shock: !!!!!

In any case, Ambrosia Software doesn't seem to do anything anymore, or at least nothing that could give me another installment of Escape Velocity. Nova was in conjunction with another company, and I didn't quite like as much, but was still cool.

If it turns out to not be as cool, I'll just start up a game of OG EV. Because that shit never gets old.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23 2017 1:10am
by Rune
I'm fine with people counting Zelda as an RPG, I do. In particular, blah, blah, blah, Zelda 2 had a level system, blah, blah, blah, there is an inherent difference in style from CoD.

But also I think it's not worth discussing. We used to argue about secret of mana and secret of evermore being RPGs. According the the box art, they are not RPGs, they are action/adventure:
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But really, who the hell cares? Call them whatever you want.


Unrelated, but I just saw a picture of this and had to suppress my gag reflex:
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That is just f*cking disgusting.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23 2017 3:39am
by Earl
You still have a gag reflex?

Asking for a friend.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23 2017 4:11am
by Rune
A cucumber is one thing, a box of fireball is another.


But seriously, every time I look at that box, I have to take a couple minutes of slow breaths so I don't puke.

Re: bored members discuss inflation

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23 2017 5:01am
by ZethaPonderer
If I must address my opinion on why I don't think Zelda qualifies as an RPG is that it is designed to make your character Link be 'progressively' strong by gathering powerups and items in the game similar to Metroid, but not 'repetitively' strong as in most RPGs.

I can kill the same enemy over and over in every Zelda game (except Zelda 2) and will never get strong in the most repetitive fashion. When I think of RPGs I think of games that play like traditional DnD, or DnD inspired e.g. JRPGs for the most part. Oh I forgot to mention this, most games that are classified as RPGs generally are math-intensive for those who hate Math.

Zelda is too unique to be classified as an RPG alongside Metroid. I just personally think Adventure would be a better description since these games are mostly about getting invested into the adventure we're going to have with these characters, but even I understand classifying both these series in that category is still too vague.

Enemies in most Zelda games are a nuisance just to get in your way. I don't need to kill them when I can just avoid most of them and be as pacifistic as possible. That might be an interesting run, Play like a Pacifist except for the bosses + No Death, I might try that someday while playing Minish Cap.

This was not the case when it comes to RPGs back in the early 80s to late 90s where most of them at least were DnD inspired. I guess times have changed where the term RPG has become a vague terminology just as much as calling any game an Adventure or a Puzzle game.