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Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Tor_Heyerdal » Sat Dec 24 2016 2:34am

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INITIAL RELEASE DATE: DECEMBER 23, 2016
MAIN DOWNLOAD LAST UPDATED ON: DECEMBER 27, 2016

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Greetings everyone, and a merry Christmas and happy holidays to you.

I know I've been promising this for quite a while now, but I finally present to you the new, updated release of Shining Force III: 16-bit, and I am thrilled to have successfully managed to get it to you just in time for Christmas. :thumbsup:

This demo contains half of Chapter 1. It contains the entire Saraband portion of the game.

It is not entirely bug free, there are a few hiccups and problems. If you accidentally break a menu, just completely close out of that menu, re-open that menu's parent menu, and then close it again. This problem seems to be particularly apparent when loading a file which was saved in combat.

For those of you who installed the old demo: The old build required you to have RPG Maker 2003 and/or its Run Time Package installed, but this is not the case anymore. The game will now run on its own. Similarly, the old build required you to manually install a font, but this is not the case anymore. The game will now automatically support its own font. Windowed mode, however, is still restricted to 640x480 resolution. This is planned to be fixed for the next release, but for now, you will have to deal with it. For those of you who experience game crashes on full-screen/game launch, an alternative game launcher is provided to get around this problem (information in the readme).

The game comes packaged with a Readme file which contains in-depth information about the controls, launch information, troubleshooting information, and contact information. It also comes packaged with a graphical chart (in the form of a .png file) which will show you the controls in a visual representation. It also comes packaged with the latest freeware version of a program called Xpadder, which you can use to configure your controller or joystick to work properly with the game.

I hope that you all have as much fun playing it as I have making it. The next release is planned to include the entirety of Chapter 1. Hopefully that next update will come sooner than this one did, on account of I (theoretically) won't have a bunch of health issues complicating things, nor will I have to cope with quitting smoking all over again, since that's all in the past now. :D

Please don't hesitate to leave your feedback here, or report any bugs. Chances are good that I may already know about any bug you might report, but there's also a chance that I might not, so.

If you played the old demo, then you should hopefully notice a great deal of improvements to already existing content, let alone all of the awesome new content.

May we please have this thread stickied? Thank you. And I suppose you can go ahead and unsticky the old one now.

EDIT: If you have a save file from the old demo release, it will not be compatible with this version. You will have to start from the beginning.

EDIT: Someone reported being unable to utilize the direction keys to any end within the game, but that restarting their system fixed this odd problem. That said, they were having the same problem with other RPG Maker games, so it wasn't a problem with my project, per se.

CRITICAL UPDATE: If you are experiencing a bug in which the load menu continuously pops up whenever you try to do anything in combat, and/or when talking to certain NPCs, then download this patch. It is an archive containing two files. Extract those files to the root directory (main folder) of the game and overwrite the old files. After you have done this, reload your saved game and then talk to the priest in the church to make it stop. If you can't get to the priest because you're stuck in combat, then I'm sorry, but you'll need to restart the game. This was a pretty bad oversight on my part. Sorry. If you have not downloaded the game at all yet, then you will not need to download this fix because I have re-uploaded the game with this fix already applied.

PATCH UPDATE, DEC 27, 2016: If you are experiencing a bug which causes Masqurin and Grace to be unable to utilize any new MP acquired through level-ups in subsequent battles, then you will want to download this patch. This patch will also make it so that if you lose fights 2 or 3, you will not need to sit through their respective cut-scenes all over again the second time 'round. This patch also fixes a few other minor things like stepping out of the church one tile to the left of the door instead of in front of it, or being able to step up on top of the bar after winning the second fight. As usual, if you have not downloaded the game at all yet, then there is no need to download this patch, as it is already applied to the main download now.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby DiegoMM » Sun Dec 25 2016 3:09pm

Hooray!
Gonna test it now!
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby chris1234p » Sun Dec 25 2016 11:56pm

Thanks Tor! Gonna check it out now.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Tor_Heyerdal » Mon Dec 26 2016 4:12am

Hope everyone who's had time to do so is enjoying the demo. :)

A very critical bug has been brought to my attention by our dear friend Red_Shine. So if you're experiencing a bug wherein you continuously get bombarded with load menus upon trying to do anything in combat or speaking with certain NPCs (or perhaps some other conditions), then you'll want to download this patch. Extract the two files to the root directory (main folder) of the game, and then reload your saved game, and speak with the priest to correct the problem. If you haven't experienced this bug, but you downloaded the game before seeing this post, then you'll want to download this too. If you have not yet downloaded the game at all, then you won't need this because it's already applied to the main download now.

I have also put this information into the OP in an updated edit.

Also, merry Christmas, everyone. <3
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby DiegoMM » Mon Dec 26 2016 4:11pm

Ugh I lost twice the second batte.
But the demo is wonderful and im really enjoying, really a great christmas present.

Killing the boss ends the battle was not implemented yet right? At my second try I managed to kill the pink monk, but after that a bat killed synbios.

A bug that I noticed: Masqurin leveled up and her hp grows 2 points, but when I restart the battle, her hp dont come full, come with 2 points depleted (7/9 I think)

Keep up the good work and merry christmas.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Tor_Heyerdal » Mon Dec 26 2016 7:26pm

DiegoMM wrote:Ugh I lost twice the second batte.
But the demo is wonderful and im really enjoying, really a great christmas present.


Thanks. I'm so glad that you're having fun with it. :D I'm also glad that it isn't too easy. Hehehe.

DiegoMM wrote:Killing the boss ends the battle was not implemented yet right? At my second try I managed to kill the pink monk, but after that a bat killed synbios.


It actually is implemented, but one of two things is happening here: Either 1) This is actually one of those bosses that doesn't end the fight when you kill them (I've called the bosses that do end the fight upon their death "super bosses" in my code. lol), or 2) I simply forgot to assign this boss as being a super boss. lol. I'll look into it.

DiegoMM wrote:A bug that I noticed: Masqurin leveled up and her hp grows 2 points, but when I restart the battle, her hp dont come full, come with 2 points depleted (7/9 I think)


Yes, I am aware of this bug, but I'm not really sure what's causing it yet. I didn't have time to fix it and get the game released in time for Christmas. Your party will heal up after a fight is over, but they don't seem to regain any HP past what their max was when they began the fight (or something like that), even if they leveled up past that point. I'll have that fixed for the next update, definitely.

DiegoMM wrote:Keep up the good work and merry christmas.


:D Thank you very much, and merry Christmas to you too, my friend.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby DiegoMM » Tue Dec 27 2016 1:03am

Oops. I mean masqurin gained 2 mp points, not hp, my mistake. The problem is with the extra mp points not replenished in the start of the battle.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Tor_Heyerdal » Tue Dec 27 2016 1:41am

DiegoMM wrote:Oops. I mean masqurin gained 2 mp points, not hp, my mistake. The problem is with the extra mp points not replenished in the start of the battle.


Yeah, same thing. lol.

EDIT UPDATE: I have fixed the MP bug. See the OP for a patch download. As usual, the patch has been applied to the main download, so anyone who's downloading the full game will not need to download the patch.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Stordarth » Tue Dec 27 2016 8:19pm

Swapped the stickies around for you.

If I ever get time to try this out, I'll give it a whirl.
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Chaoswizard98 » Wed Dec 28 2016 8:43pm

Alright I finally got a chance to play it and I have loads of bugs to report. :thumbsup:

Battle 1:
No real issues unless the boss is supposed to end the fight. If he is... well... he didn't.

Battle 2:
Garosh went and got himself killed so I egressed to restart the battle. I sent Dantares and Grace in to save him the second time. Somewhere in there, the first bat (top left) flew in and I hit it with a blaze spell. The bat had no name this time around (name spot was blank) and it's battle sprite wasn't there. It DID however take the correct damage saying "Masked monk took 9 damage".

Later Dantares had the talk option (I mistook it for attack initially as he was standing next to both Garrosh and a monk) and it allowed me to select Garrosh and the monk. I chose the monk and nothing happened. (again, I thought it defaulted to attack)

After that the cursor was shifted down and to the right when selecting people. (ie, it was choosing the wrong tile) but functionality wise, everything worked fine. Later it shifted to down left, (possibly when I tried talking to the green haired guy).

After I saved Garrosh, he decided to charge in and solo the boss and 2 bats and ended up getting owned by 'blast level 0' which pretty much 1 shotted him dealing 10-11 damage.

Oh and I found out that you can cast blaze even when you don't have enough mana. (at least you can with blaze 1 and 2, not tested heal)

Regarding the talk option. Is it supposed to do anything? It seems to have no effect.

Battle 3:
So apparently your fearless leader cant gain experience (either that or it's wiped between battles or whatnot) as he was still only level 1 (and he SHOULD have been level 3).

First time through, my level 1 Synbios got owned by the knights.

After the restart, none of the 'cutscenes' or 'scripted events' happened. So... No knights spawned and the imposter / monks didn't move from their start location (they weren't ever selected by the cursor).

Killing the boss also didn't end the battle so... I had to spend a good 10 minutes Killing the imposter 1 damage at a time... Killing all units did send me to the next cutscene though.

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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby Tor_Heyerdal » Wed Dec 28 2016 8:56pm

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Battle 1:
No real issues unless the boss is supposed to end the fight. If he is... well... he didn't.


Yeah, he's not supposed to end the fight.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Battle 2:
Garosh went and got himself killed so I egressed to restart the battle. I sent Dantares and Grace in to save him the second time. Somewhere in there, the first bat (top left) flew in and I hit it with a blaze spell. The bat had no name this time around (name spot was blank) and it's battle sprite wasn't there. It DID however take the correct damage saying "Masked monk took 9 damage".


I am aware of this, but I have absolutely no idea what's causing it. It's not a particularly common bug, though.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Later Dantares had the talk option (I mistook it for attack initially as he was standing next to both Garrosh and a monk) and it allowed me to select Garrosh and the monk. I chose the monk and nothing happened. (again, I thought it defaulted to attack)

After that the cursor was shifted down and to the right when selecting people. (ie, it was choosing the wrong tile) but functionality wise, everything worked fine. Later it shifted to down left, (possibly when I tried talking to the green haired guy).


I was aware of this, but I *thought* that I had fixed it. But your description here makes me think that something else may have been causing it all along (specifically, having possible attack targets in range as well as possible talk targets). I'll look into this.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:After I saved Garrosh, he decided to charge in and solo the boss and 2 bats and ended up getting owned by 'blast level 0' which pretty much 1 shotted him dealing 10-11 damage.


He should only "charge" if the boss is within his attack range on that turn. If you let him travel *all* the way down the map before talking to him, then that's your own fault. lol. And yeah, Blast 1 is reporting as Blast 0 in the cinematic. lol. I'm aware of this. :P

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Oh and I found out that you can cast blaze even when you don't have enough mana. (at least you can with blaze 1 and 2, not tested heal)

This is also the case with Heal. It's not yet programmed to check if you have enough mana to cast a spell. It just goes ahead and casts it. I'm aware of this, and it will definitely be dealt with in the next release.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Regarding the talk option. Is it supposed to do anything? It seems to have no effect.


It is, and it does. I've seen it work 1000 times, and I've never once seen it do nothing.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Battle 3:
So apparently your fearless leader cant gain experience (either that or it's wiped between battles or whatnot) as he was still only level 1 (and he SHOULD have been level 3).


... wut? First I'm hearing of this. I guess I'll have to look out for this one...

Chaoswizard98 wrote:First time through, my level 1 Synbios got owned by the knights.


Happens. lol.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:After the restart, none of the 'cutscenes' or 'scripted events' happened. So... No knights spawned and the imposter / monks didn't move from their start location (they weren't ever selected by the cursor).


I had this same problem with the second fight and fixed it. I didn't realize this was happening in the third fight too. Thanks for letting me know. I'll release a patch for this one in the near future (either today or tomorrow).

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Killing the boss also didn't end the battle so... I had to spend a good 10 minutes Killing the imposter 1 damage at a time... Killing all units did send me to the next cutscene though.


Which shouldn't have been an issue because the Imposter is supposed to be off the map long before then. lol. When I fix the thing mentioned above, it will also fix this too.

Chaoswizard98 wrote:Overall it was a fun playthrough. Keep up the great work!


Thanks! I will! :D
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Re: Shining Force III: 16-bit: Full Saraband Demo Release

Postby DiegoMM » Thu Dec 29 2016 5:10pm

Synbios losing experience happened with me too, when he was defeated, his experience was changed back to 0, but in battle he gained levels normally.
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