Demonic Weasel wrote:Well the next chapter has just been uploaded once again. It took me a little longer than I wanted to put it up, mostly because I was really sick last week or it would have been up a week ago, but you have it at last. I reworked the chapter somewhat, and though it's a little lengthy, I think that most readers will be pleased to find that it has a lot of things happening in it. It was certainly refreshing to me to rework things in such a way as to have such an eventful chapter. Hopefully there will be fewer of these small hitches going forward.
As for Noma and Rose, it's good to hear that the two of you are still working on your stuff from time to time. You gotta keep everyone from relying on just me!
As a minor note at TUM: I've never gotten the sense that Martin is going on an all out Iom is the greater good kick. Not a bit of it. He's spent a fair bit of time showing us that Iom worshippers, even if they make poor decisions in that much, are still at least people, by and large. But the unrelentingly evil depictions of Woldol and the negative attention given to actors like Warderer and Leifo not to mention Iom itself, from Deanna's mouth no less, has me convinced that he's not actually trying to rehabilitate Iom of all things. I think you might be conflating some of your irritations with Nick's statesmanship onto the current fallout of the Iom situation.
TheUnknownMarine wrote:Goddammit, you've hit my sore point. Incoming angry rant.
Martin, you're not seriously going to try and have Iom and his worshipers be the good guys are you? The cliche of horrible evil being done for a greater good according to some grand plan is not only intellectually dishonest*, but tired and old. Iom and his ilk are not sympathetic, they are not misunderstood, they are not secretly working for the communal good. They are monsters. And you've even portrayed them as monsters, but increasingly, I get the sense from what I've read that the sheer creepiness of Iom and how brainwashed anyone he contacts gets isn't a function of that. I'm starting to think you're leading the audience to believe, that even you believe, the evil god of blood isn't all that bad. I'm getting the sense that Deanna's son is going to pop out, go all blood crazy, kill a ton of people and then everyone unites against him and then Iom's going to be all like SEE IF I DIDN'T KILL A BUNCH OF YOUR DUDES YOU WOULDN'T HAVE STOPPED KILLING DUDES! Or the standard gambit where it's "either they'll unify against me or they'll unify when I've conquered them" routine. Ugh.
I was taking all of this with a grain of salt before, but now supposedly 'fixed' May still is loyal to Iom, Deanna's willing to TRUST her despite the hilarious obviousness of what's going on, and the sheer fact Iom-worship is still prevalent... ay-yi-yi. I'm asking you straight. What is the deal with Iom. Put it in spoilers or PM it if you have to.
*The trope, applied as much in real life as it is in fiction unfortunately, allows people to justify increasing terrible actions with "it'll be OK in the end." It's dishonest because this sort of story encourages lazy thinking when it comes to the most critical sort of thought, thought regarded deep ethical matters. In much the same way we now have West Point cadets arguing for implementation of war crimes*1, these sorts of stories give people the notion that it's OK to take the more terrible, easy way out to a given dilemma rather than struggle through it.
Noma wrote:A short excerpt from chapter 4 of Legacy of Oddeye.
TheUnknownMarine wrote:I'm curious as to what his more neutral actions were in the games? It's been a while since I've played, but it seemed to me to be the standard take over the world scenario for him.
Martin III wrote:Noma wrote:A short excerpt from chapter 4 of Legacy of Oddeye.
The opening sentence is quite a mouthful, and I'd see about breaking it up somehow. Otherwise, very good. The dynamic between Creed and Evil Spirit continues to be entertaining.TheUnknownMarine wrote:I'm curious as to what his more neutral actions were in the games? It's been a while since I've played, but it seemed to me to be the standard take over the world scenario for him.
You're talking about Evil Spirit? I don't remember the game giving any hint as to his personal goals in life.
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