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Worst "common" class in the series

Knights/Paladins
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21%
Mages/Wizards
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3%
Healers/Vicars
14
18%
Warriors/Gladiators
22
28%
Archers/Snipers or Bowmasters
24
31%
 
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby phat_chris » Fri Dec 01 2006 11:30pm

I always give Birdmen the Power ring in SF3 +5 to attack and defence is a real help.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Ansa » Thu Dec 28 2006 2:44pm

Boken The Forgotten Hero @ Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:04 am) wrote: How can you say Elder is not that hare to level up. When you first get her even witht he wings there still a good chance of her getting killed in one hit, and to make thing worse she only ends up do 2-3 damage. I do think she gets some good stat boost in level up but still super annoying to level up when you first get her.

No she can't take on enemies by herself but during that first battle your bound to have a few enemies which get low HP and she's perfect if you don't want to waste a good hit on an enemy already almost dead. If you have that much trouble building her up I'd suggest just using her when you can and then in the mansion battle with the vandal take advantage of that battle and build her up then, it's really quite easy to do in that might since the area isn't that large and she can pretty much go all over the map in 2 turns.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Great Paladin » Sat Jan 06 2007 4:51pm

Knights - They're good, Arthur owned in SF1 if prmoted to lvl. 20, some games, they start out strong then weaken out. Sf2, Eric aand Rick, best centaurs

Mages/Wizards- I don't what to say about them, they're great in SF 1 and 2, And in gaiden II, especially may. In SF2, I'd rather go for sorcerer

Healers/Vicars - The only Great healers are Karna as a master monk in SF 2, actually all the master monks. In sword of hajya (GG), LUke is the strongest character on my force, his stats increased by 3 everytime when u promoted him

Warriors - I always have them, SF1, they're movement is a 6, and they're really strong. When you promte them, they do lose, but then gain it back. After SF1, they shrunk they're movement for sum reason. Gyan and Jaha are awesome, actually all of them in SF 2 are awesome. In gaiden II, Jaha and Rhode are great, but i found Jaha to have a bit better defence against freeze 3

Snipers- Ahhhh, i never have them on my team. When I get Lyle, I'll try him out. In SF2, May is the best. In Sword of Hajya (gg) I always use both graham and chester, they're really strong for archers.

Birdmen - I don't know what to say. Jus terrible defence. I hear Balbaroy can be good though. I SF2, i found luke to be stronger than skreech. Claude in SOH was pretty damn good for a bird.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Snipes » Sat Jan 06 2007 6:35pm

I'm actually really suprised anyone would vote for knights. They're essentially your main powerhouse frontline fighters in any Shining Force game you play. Most of the knights in all the games remain quite useful until the very end. Look at Arthur, Earnest, and Pelle for instance. Or perhaps Eric, Chester, and Rick from 2. I actually find it pretty difficult to find any knights that aren't useful throughout the entire game in Shining Force 3.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Loftus » Thu Mar 01 2007 5:48pm

Knights- i like using centaurs, i liked most of them from sf1 (i have ALOT more experience in sf1 then other sf games).. arthur, ken, pelle, mae and Earnest were all either really good or made up for it by looking cool (Earnest :p) i like the idea of good movement and atack on the whole, i liked Eric from sfcd and apis, they were good... and not forgetting Dantares.. he was really good for a starting char :D

Mages/Wizards- these can't be the worst, in my opinion, they are the only unit that ignors defence, and can hit more than one unit, Tao, Alef and Anri were all excellent, i liked Kazin.. Wendy was good from sfcd masquirin was really good from sf3 as well. a very good class IMO.

Healers/Vicars - these get my vote as worst... i admit they can be needed and i always have one, but that can be said for all the other classes, i don't like having to rely on being hit so these guys can get xp.. monks is a different q (knuckles from sfg:fc is AMAZING..... but healers.. nah.

Warriors - from sf1? amazing.. luke and gort were two of my favourite chars from that game, looked really cool after promotion were impossible to take out and packed a punch as well. i HATED gladiators from sf2 (although didn't mind them as warriors)and i suppose i quite liked the majority of the sfcd and sf3 ones.

Snipers- quite good on the whole, pretty useful and normally floating around my team through most of the game, no amazing ones that i can think of (maybe may from sf2 and lyle from sf1 if they count) but still pretty useful.

Birdmen - birdmen.. poor birdmen, they get constantly moaned at for being ****.. but i have to say i don't mind them. i agree on the whole they aint great, but i liked balbaroy, and luke from sf2 was okay.. and i liked Eldar from sf3 as well. it comes down to whether or not you don't mind having slightly lower stats than main frontline warriors in place of incredible speed and movement and looking really cool while killing things.

so.. my final answer = healers/vicars.. just not cool enough to use for me.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby zagato05 » Thu Mar 01 2007 9:00pm

I would have to choose Warriors. I am never too fond of them. I get rid of them as soon as I can in SF1 and in SF2 I only use Jaha as a Baron. I use them somewhat in the gaidens but I usually choose an other class over them.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby knifelord » Sun May 13 2007 11:18pm

I'd say archers and bowmasters because there are only 3 of them and two of them really suck. Lyle is the only good one of his class. Hans is very weak and looks like a toothpick, and Diane is a bit better but still looks like a toothpick.

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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Martin III » Mon May 14 2007 10:38pm

knifelord @ Sun May 13, 2007 11:18 pm) wrote: (I'm only reffering to Shining Force on this one)

Ah yes, but you see, Chester, Shade, May, and Sonette all rock. And I understand there are a few good archers in Shining Force III, though I haven't gotten that far yet...

EDIT: By the way, Lyle isn't actually an archer. He's an assault knight.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Aldur » Tue May 15 2007 12:18am

Martin III @ Mon May 14, 2007 10:38 pm) wrote: And I understand there are a few good archers in Shining Force III, though I haven't gotten that far yet...

You've not gotten to the second battle?
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Martin III » Tue May 15 2007 9:53pm

Aldur @ Tue May 15, 2007 12:18 am) wrote: You've not gotten to the second battle?

Yeah, that's right. Go ahead... laugh. (sniffle) :(
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby knifelord » Sun Jun 17 2007 6:32am

Martin III @ Mon May 14, 2007 10:38 pm) wrote: Lyle isn't actually an archer. He's an assault knight.

Meh, whatever, mere technicalities.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Red » Tue Jun 26 2007 5:36am

eh its been over a month but i think ill throw in my input lol.

I personally think that Knights/Paladins are the weakest. At least for me they are. They always seem to fall behind. High HP, mediocre defense, decent attack, and good movement on good ground. The thing that really bothers me is the lack of movement on anything with 30% mobility(or whatever its called). Every desert, forest, ruins, etc. they can barely move 5. That makes them almost useless during those battles.

I use my healers all the time for well, healing. :shock:

Archers can keep up during those hard terrain battles. I usually keep them pretty well protected so they are useful for me. But i also use a lot of "support" role members.

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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby OllieB » Wed Jul 04 2007 11:32pm

Knights and paladins annoy me... For me, all of my knights except for the first one end up being a big let down. Their stats don't accelerate and they can't do much damage, while the first knight that I ever got is playin' with the big boys...
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Dreco3000 » Mon Jul 09 2007 6:34pm

in my opinion warriors are just not worth the hasle. As for birdfolk i hate them all (except for Peter)
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Maximus Aureillus » Fri Aug 27 2010 11:32pm

To me healers are rather useless if I've a fast and hard hitting force, which I usually do late in the game. I've problems keeping healers up to speed, although SFCD and SFFC monks are a joy to use. SF2 healers are ridiculously over powered. They could have distributed some of the stats to those frigging birdmen. Back to the topic. Healers and Vicars are a pain to use for me, as leveling them up tends to drag the battle on unnecessarily. So kudos to those that use the healer/vicar class properly.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Rohde Is Underrated » Tue Aug 31 2010 8:15pm

In my play-throughs of SF1&2 my final parties didn't have a single healer in them, I instead used healing items. Was much more effective for me being able to use any unit on the force to heal whenever I wanted them to, sure they didn't heal as much damage as a heal 3, 4 or an aura would but i never ran the risk of a healers turn not coming around fast enough and losing a unit because another enemy went first.

Close second behind them I would say are knights, they are great at beginning with their move range and being able to use spears, but by the end of the game they are usually getting laughed at by the forces of evil. (Check this out! He has a Paladin in his party, let's all point and laugh.)
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Killian22 » Sun Sep 12 2010 8:52pm

I don't think theres any worst classes! everything i think, depends on your team in general !!
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Martin III » Wed Sep 15 2010 1:09am

Killian22 @ Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:52 pm) wrote: I don't think theres any worst classes! everything i think, depends on your team in general !!

Totally agree; I've never voted on this poll in all the years it's been up. Each of the common classes is simply too valuable for me to call any of them the worst.
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Cullsoft » Wed Sep 15 2010 7:54am

Martin III @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:09 am) wrote: Totally agree; I've never voted on this poll in all the years it's been up. Each of the common classes is simply too valuable for me to call any of them the worst.

Okay, rather than the thought of "worst" (which isn't entirely fair, as some people find all of them of value), how about looking at the question this way:

If you had a team of a leader and one each of these classes (Knight, Warrior, Priest, Mage, Archer), and for some reason or another could only take 5 of them into battle (including the Hero)... who would sit out?
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Re: Worst "common" class in the series?

Postby Martin III » Thu Sep 16 2010 12:42am

Culley O'Fursdom @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:54 am) wrote: Okay, rather than the thought of "worst" (which isn't entirely fair, as some people find all of them of value), how about looking at the question this way:

If you had a team of a leader and one each of these classes (Knight, Warrior, Priest, Mage, Archer), and for some reason or another could only take 5 of them into battle (including the Hero)... who would sit out?

Ooof. Tough one. My first instinct is the archer, but then, something about not having range 3 attacks until my mage learns Freeze level 3 or Spark level 2 makes me... though I guess archers generally don't get range 3 until promotion, either... Hmm. I don't like that the mages have less offensive power than the archers most of the time, though. Then again, at least they don't have to worry about enemies dodging, or high Defense foes.

Heck. Guess I'll go with Archer, then.
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