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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby chevkraken » Thu Nov 06 2014 11:39pm

TheUnknownMarine wrote:This latest chapter implies both that Otrant and Darksol were indeed Ancients, and also that Darksol's motive was to try to ensure the Ancients' survival? How strange.


Darksol was an ancient in ROTDD, no?
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby TheUnknownMarine » Fri Nov 07 2014 10:28pm

chevkraken wrote:
TheUnknownMarine wrote:This latest chapter implies both that Otrant and Darksol were indeed Ancients, and also that Darksol's motive was to try to ensure the Ancients' survival? How strange.


Darksol was an ancient in ROTDD, no?

Yes, but his goal certainly didn't seem to be the Ancients' survival... much less Otrant also being an Ancient!
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Omega Entity » Fri Nov 07 2014 11:31pm

Really? I thought Otrant was an Ancient as well in that game?
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
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(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
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(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Fri Nov 07 2014 11:56pm

I neglected this for a while, huh? Here are chapters 11 and 12:
http://pastebin.com/y8yVab5s
http://pastebin.com/ay0rGwW9

And just compiling a list of possible future to-do:
WARNING: SPOILER!
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby chevkraken » Sat Nov 08 2014 5:26pm

TheUnknownMarine wrote:
chevkraken wrote:
TheUnknownMarine wrote:This latest chapter implies both that Otrant and Darksol were indeed Ancients, and also that Darksol's motive was to try to ensure the Ancients' survival? How strange.


Darksol was an ancient in ROTDD, no?

Yes, but his goal certainly didn't seem to be the Ancients' survival... much less Otrant also being an Ancient!


At first it was, it seems... but the experience he was taking part didn't turn well and he became like we know him.
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby TheUnknownMarine » Sun Nov 09 2014 1:24am

Somedays I wish I wasn't a fan of Shining Force simply so I wouldn't have to put up with the mental anguish of knowing the vast bulk of supplementary materials are forever outside of my reach and there will be questions I will never have answered.

Still, this goes a bit towards salving that wound. Thanks a bunch Siel, and keep up the good work!
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Wed Nov 12 2014 9:02am

Chapter 13: http://pastebin.com/1HYqstLZ

I couldn't figure out the chapter's title again. It's something about movement, perhaps akin to rebellion.
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Antman 537 » Thu Nov 13 2014 7:03pm

Exellent work, ans always :thumbsup: It's interesting to see how different the story is from what I'd guessed.
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Wed Nov 19 2014 12:09am

Chapter 14: http://pastebin.com/VxxnbSix

Carsel? Carcel? Karcel? Kerr Cell? Car Sale?
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby TheUnknownMarine » Wed Nov 19 2014 2:55am

Excellent work!

Any chance of translating that 'fan' page with the character entries?
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Wed Nov 19 2014 12:32pm

It's unfortunately too blurry for me. I can make out a few scattered bits, but not enough to make sense of the entries. The comic's a bit bigger, so I could make out more of it:
WARNING: SPOILER!
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Omega Entity » Wed Nov 19 2014 1:51pm

Can you send my the pages? Maybe I have some filters I can run them through to make them more legible.
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
(8:23:54 PM) YsFanatic18: She was feedigng horses
(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
(8:24:07 PM) ahath714: She stuffs.
(8:24:39 PM) ehow1990: ask a stupid question and everybody has an answer XD
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
(8:23:54 PM) YsFanatic18: She was feedigng horses
(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
(8:24:07 PM) ahath714: She stuffs.
(8:24:39 PM) ehow1990: ask a stupid question and everybody has an answer XD
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Wed Nov 19 2014 2:30pm

the Landstalker wrote:ok, here is the link

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sy7eowrk5808unk/X74LAk082J

in case I did it wrong the first time, here is another link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nlu55z21g8a95 ... 0Manga.zip
is where I got the whole thing from, but here's the page itself:
WARNING: SPOILER!

Edit: with some basic sharpening to not much avail:
WARNING: SPOILER!
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Omega Entity » Thu Nov 20 2014 1:46am

Thanks. I'll see if I can do anything with it.
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
(8:23:54 PM) YsFanatic18: She was feedigng horses
(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
(8:24:07 PM) ahath714: She stuffs.
(8:24:39 PM) ehow1990: ask a stupid question and everybody has an answer XD
(8:23:45 PM) ehow1990: stupid question: why do you have hay there?
(8:23:54 PM) YsFanatic18: She was feedigng horses
(8:23:58 PM) MXC0Spike: Barn sex
(8:24:07 PM) ahath714: She stuffs.
(8:24:39 PM) ehow1990: ask a stupid question and everybody has an answer XD
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Fri Nov 21 2014 10:46pm

Chapter 15: http://pastebin.com/hmAEF6YZ

It looks like the 1st page wasn't saved properly, and the chapter's title was maybe at its bottom. A bubble is also cut off. Luckily, the text at the side seemed predictable enough.
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby TheUnknownMarine » Sat Nov 22 2014 5:15am

Well then, it seems like the timeline was confirmed.

So Mae "bared her fangs at everything", huh? Interesting.
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Siel » Sat Nov 22 2014 5:27pm

So that's Mae, huh? I guess it does look like her, with the bandana and the vague centaur body behind her. I never went much beyond the game of SF1 itself.

Chapter 16: http://pastebin.com/ApsHBsn6
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby TheUnknownMarine » Sat Nov 22 2014 6:27pm

Hmmm. So Killy was supposed to lead the Warriors of Light and Chris was supposed to help reincarnate the SF?

I sure as heck don't remember any of this in SitD, but it falls in line almost perfectly with the "endless cycle" theory for the Shining World I cooked up.

I'm going to laugh with glee if this ends up confirming what I've been saying about the game world.


EDIT: Based on the way the story is going and the repeated appearance of character designs identical to those found in FEDA, I did a little digging. A cursory investigation reveals that FEDA was supposed to be the SNES Shining Force, which figures, but going further, it seems that this manga was supposed to set things up for it. IE, Killy is supposed to be Ain, the human with the gun is supposed to be Raven/Stinger, Chris is probably Sonia, etc. etc. Killy being destined to lead the "Warriors of Light" seem to confirm this...

Honestly it really seems that the SF1 team had a pretty clear idea of where to take the Shining series after 1... and that it differed dramatically from what we got when SEGA canned them.

That.... that really makes me mad. Don't get me wrong, I liked SF2, but I loved SF1 for its unique mix of technology and magic, humans and demihumans, post-apocalyptic and fantasy... SF2 just doesn't have that same feel.

To find out that they were going to continue and then were stopped by SEGA...

That's just... goddamn.
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby Antman 537 » Sat Nov 22 2014 8:48pm

On an unrellated note, I'm still lost as to why Chris' dad committed seppuku. Killy didn't seem to say anything implying it was necessary, and the great will was pretty vague about what he needed to do. I guess we're supposed to infer that he needed to so that all of this could happen exactly as it did?
So weird.

Also, is that Elliott shadowing Slash in 15?
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Re: Shining and the darkness gaiden

Postby TheUnknownMarine » Sat Nov 22 2014 10:26pm

As far as I could tell, he needed to die so his soul could guide his daughter or something. He pulled an Obi-Wan Kenobi.


And yeah it is. Also, Slash appears in FEDA.
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