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A request about a rumor

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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Fri Feb 04 2011 7:11am

It's pretty much "Grab files of character you want" (the files are numbered from 00 to 59, 00 being Synbios and 59 being Jane), copy into translation patch folder /files/s3/, rename to character you want it to be, then ran the patch to apply it to the game. There's also CFW##.CHP files, which appear to be for the characters you can play as (Scenario 1 has 00 only, Scenario 2 has 20 only and Scenario 3 has 00, 07 and 20, the same as the character ids of Synbios, Julian and Medion). Faffing with these made bad things happen though. :blush:

Anyway, the only noteworthy thing I've noticed so far is that there is a bug in Rogan's file - the first 2 bytes say exactly which character the file is for (it's basically the same as the ## in the filename). Rogan's is set to 36 (same value as Turk), when it should be 29. Fixing this hasn't fixed the sprite bug, unfortunately. :(

I need to do some testing and work out how these files work before I can do anything meaningful. I also need to work out how the enemies.chp (I assume) file works in order to grab Rogan's sprite out of it. I'd imagine it'd work in a similar way.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Fri Feb 04 2011 7:19am

So would it be possible to do this with an Action Replay and an original Sce.3 on the sat or can it only be done on a patched game?
Hope I dont sound to pushy... I just wanted to ask.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Fri Feb 04 2011 7:24am

*shrugs* no clue yet.

I'd imagine that if an AR code could be made it would be for a particular slot in battle. So if you had Julian, Gracia, Donhort and Kate in your force, it would need a code to change the sprite of the 5th slot and you'd lower the slot for each of those characters not in your force. If this is the case it would also effect other characters when switching maps/sending characters into ruins etc. in a battle. :(
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Fri Feb 04 2011 7:36am

Guess I should just be patient and let you figure it all out before I jump at you with questions. Just glad you already started making progress. Ill save all questions till you have it all worked out. :) Kinda hard not to be a bit :excited: about this!
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Fri Feb 04 2011 7:45am

We have a Rogan sprite!

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That came up after fixing the start of the file (so that it points to his character slot) and setting Rogan's class to Swordsman. It appears that his sprite is not set correctly for his class. Still need to work out how to set that in the file, but that's a big step up, I think you'll agree.

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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Fri Feb 04 2011 7:51am

I think im tearing up! This is nothing short of amazing... I can't wait to see how this turns out.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Fri Feb 04 2011 10:00am

We have a winner! This will also make a great addition to the translation patch files once this is ready.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Lourde Incarnadine » Fri Feb 04 2011 4:27pm

That's it, I'm officially converting to Idolatry. That is AWESOME!
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Sat Feb 05 2011 1:51pm

I've also had a go at seeing if I could unbug Jane in Scenario 3 by copying over her Premium Disc files. Results:
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Sprite displays fine, but it again requires Jane to be set to Soldier class. However it still crashes the game when it's her go, so apparently that's not the issue. :(

I'm gonna see about doing some more in depth tinkering with these files at some point today.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Sat Feb 05 2011 3:54pm

So if you get Rogan working in Sce.3 would you also be able to get him working in the Premium Disc?
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Sat Feb 05 2011 4:24pm

Should be able to under the same conditions I can get him working in Sc3 atm; e.g. he must have a class of Soldier. As soon as I can get around the class restriction I'll release something for other people to play with.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Sun Feb 06 2011 1:20pm

Well keep it up. This is all very interesting development.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Sun Feb 06 2011 8:22pm

Would you mind posting some more pics of Rogan, for example his status screens? (Maybe Jane too) :blush:
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Sun Feb 06 2011 8:57pm

I'll do more than that, here's a video of his sprite in action:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n052u7y5nu7s62n
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Sun Feb 06 2011 9:07pm

You are the KING!!! Thanks! :excited:
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Sun Feb 06 2011 9:12pm

I'd show off Jane as well, but there's really nothing to show (and I couldn't be bothered to re-patch the game to change her sprite again ;)). The game still crashes as soon as it's her turn. :(
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Novangel X » Sun Feb 06 2011 9:28pm

No big loss. The real prize here is a visible Rogan hands down! Who needs anything else? ;)
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Wed Feb 09 2011 7:47pm

Give me Penkichi. :(

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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby BoneIdol » Wed Feb 09 2011 11:37pm

Does anyone know what the hell that's about? All my Scenario 3 saves have Jane down as Penkichi. Is that her name in the original Japanese games? I vaguely recall hearing some rumour about there being an extra penguin character called Penkichi who got removed from the game, but I could have dreamt that.
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Re: A request about a rumor

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Wed Feb 09 2011 11:42pm

That would be an extra character that was never added to the game, aye. LF once considered the possibility that it could have been a penguin in a copter, though I don't know any more than that and the fact it's in the save file's team roster with no stats, just the one name.
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